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What We're Afraid to Say About Ebola
New York Times ^ | 9/11/2014 | MICHAEL T. OSTERHOLM

Posted on 09/11/2014 11:23:51 PM PDT by DouglasKC

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To: Lady Heron

The Reston Monkey House incident demonstrated pretty conclusively that Simian Hemorrhagic Fever is transmissible through the air. The lungs shed trillions of virus particles which are ejected long distances through sneezes. The particles can stay suspended in the air a long time.


61 posted on 09/12/2014 7:27:17 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Gadsden1st

I am taking statistics this semester. I actually understood that.


62 posted on 09/12/2014 7:33:49 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Manchuria Called. They want their Candidate Back!)
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To: Spartan79

Just imagine what’s on the money in your wallet.


63 posted on 09/12/2014 7:34:14 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Usagi_yo

Voluntary Human Extinction Movement
http://www.vhemt.org/


64 posted on 09/12/2014 7:39:13 AM PDT by polymuser ( Enough is enough.)
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To: DouglasKC

Marburg a few years back acted differently.

This will get out of control, because we won’t try to stop it.


65 posted on 09/12/2014 7:39:58 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: hal ogen

yes I have

a “hole in the floor” is a grade above what rural Africans use... Not to mention what many have to use for water
and a pee on the street in a big city is “public restrooms”

But the UN observers always stay in 5 star hotels

Some AID organizations actually have programs to build sanitary pit latrines and of course, village wells so the women and girls don’t have to walk hours every day to haul water


66 posted on 09/12/2014 7:47:21 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I believe the movie “Outbreak” was based on that incident

Of course in Hollywood version, Dustin Hoffman saved the world by finding one cute little host monkey to make a vaccine


67 posted on 09/12/2014 7:49:25 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: PapaBear3625

as long as no one sneezes and everyone washes their right hand after they potty and before they dip into the communal pot of goat stew, OK


68 posted on 09/12/2014 7:51:03 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Lady Heron
I guess it depends on what the meaning of airborne is

Well, yeah, it does, but it's not really Clintonian.

"Airborne", applied to an infectious agent, has a specific, technical meaning, and it has had the same meaning for many years. Ebola virus disease is not airborne, using the word in its correct, technical, sense. The word means the same thing to all infectious disease specialists and epidemiologists, and they are not using the word to cover up anything. In technical and professional discussions, the word is being used correctly.

69 posted on 09/12/2014 7:52:58 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jim Noble

He had me until he said put the UN in charge of the response.


70 posted on 09/12/2014 7:53:21 AM PDT by iceskater (Enjoy your chains, comrades.)
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To: silverleaf

The executive assistant of the Liberian foreign minister died of it. I guarantee she didn’t have a ‘hole in the floor’ to do her business. She had a flush potty like everyone else in her demographic there.

It’s in the taxis and other transportation there now. And probably every other public surface that isn’t in direct sunlight and isn’t decontaminated every single use. Like doorknobs, elevator push buttons and similar surfaces.

It’s also carried by dogs, who are asymptomatic carriers. But while infected, their pee,poop and saliva are infected. So anywhere the dog pees, poops or drools will have ebola virons for several days depending on UV exposure of that spot.


71 posted on 09/12/2014 7:54:49 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: palmer

“That he would publish this, at this time, and in the NYT, reflects the enormous tension that must exist today within the CDC bureaucracy.

Not really. He has published scary stories before: http://www.nyu.edu/intercep/lapietra/Osterholm_PreparingforPandemic.pdf

Dr. Osterholm has been talking about/publishing scary stories for a long time. I remember listening to him speak in the 1990’s at a conference I was attending. He was discussing the book “The Hot Zone” and warning about the dangers of Ebola if it began to mutate.


72 posted on 09/12/2014 7:55:02 AM PDT by MNGal
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To: silverleaf

There is a part of me that is not seeing that scenario as a problem....

...yeah, I know they’ll all disperse back to their homes and spread it even further but there is an upside to it, you have to admit.


73 posted on 09/12/2014 7:55:38 AM PDT by iceskater (Enjoy your chains, comrades.)
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To: canuck_conservative

Heh heh heh!!


74 posted on 09/12/2014 7:56:29 AM PDT by iceskater (Enjoy your chains, comrades.)
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To: iceskater

You realize there are many from THIS country that attend the Hajj, right?

And when they ‘bring it back to their homes’, they’ll bring it back here to the US, right?


75 posted on 09/12/2014 7:58:30 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

I know that. But there is a small upside, I’m just saying.


76 posted on 09/12/2014 7:59:22 AM PDT by iceskater (Enjoy your chains, comrades.)
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To: Spartan79

scary results indeed!


77 posted on 09/12/2014 7:59:36 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: iceskater
He had me until he said put the UN in charge of the response

Yeah, but if I wanted to print the first six paragraphs in the New York Times, I might have sweetened the pot a little, as well.

If I put in the part about Aegis cruisers shooting down airliners off Conakry, they probably wouldn't have run it.

78 posted on 09/12/2014 7:59:57 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Black Agnes

Could the virus theoretically be passed from cardholder to cardholder via “card-swipe” gizmos?


79 posted on 09/12/2014 8:03:36 AM PDT by HandyDandy (Started out with Burgundy but soon hit the harder stuff....)
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To: HandyDandy

Yup.


80 posted on 09/12/2014 8:04:50 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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