Posted on 09/11/2014 12:26:24 PM PDT by Pyro7480
...We learn of a Maronite Christian seeking a liaison with Hezbollah and it sounds horrifically bad until you realize the purpose is to work together to fight ISIS, for instance. Her descriptive language for the various Christian leaders...suggests a lack of intimacy with the topic....
...When Cruz was supposed to give the keynote address and discuss the deadly serious topic of persecution of Christians, he instead insulted a largely immigrant and foreign crowd as a group that didn’t understand their own political situation and stomped out of the room after calling them a bunch of haters....
The fact is, as Mark Tooley explains in a very thoughtful and balanced piece, that Christians who are persecuted have political views that may not align with U.S. interests. Who knew? For many of us, our concern about genocide of Christians isn’t limited to those who are perfectly aligned with our views. Someone will have to explain to me how positioning Cruz and the Free Beacon this way — as the go-to group for missing the point on Christian persecution — is a good thing for either of them or the military solutions they seek....
While the case absolutely can and should be made that support for Israel does help the fight against Christian persecution, it would be naive and wrong for Christians to think that the United States has their interests at heart globally (or domestically, it seems!). And the United States has no governmental obligation to help out the Christians who are dying in the Middle East, although it would be wonderful if we could stop doing things that lead so quickly to their persecution. But I do wonder if some hawks misunderstand or underestimate American Christian sentiment about our brothers and sisters in Christ at their peril.
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But what does David Frum think? That’s what I’m waiting for. And Steve Schmidt, Joe Scarborough and Nicole Wallace?
What does that have to do with anything? By giving support to Israel we are giving support to the Christians who live in Israel.
Are you suggesting that we should cut off any assistance we give to Israel and instead send it to Syria? You think Christians in Syria will be better off if Israel is taken over by Muslims?
Just what exactly was your point?
Totally agree. And anyway as Christians, they should know what the Bible says about God’s blessings upon those who stand with Israel and His curses on those who curse her.
I like Ted Cruz. Without him constitutional conservatism would be nowhere. But on foreign policy and Federal Reserve-global banking issues, I'm not sure he's on as strong a footing as he is on other issues.
Absolutely! They should know better. But, personally, it bugs the hell out of me that they come here and carry on with their awful prejudices. We let in too many people who do not share our values - including, sadly, Christians. But I think it’s “mid east” disease. Everybody there seems crazy.
Sirhan Sirhan, the assassin of Bobby Kennedy, was an Arab Christian.
He didn’t
It wasn't like they all acted as one person. Cruz got applause at the beginning of the speech. Then he got a few boos along with the applause. Then he got confrontational because of the mixed response. Then when it was clear that he was going to walk out and that he'd written the night off, boos and heckling predominated.
A Conservative is never going to get elected by following an "offend the fewest possible" strategy.
As for Israel's Barak (who withdrew from South Lebanon for sleazy reasons), he was as dangerous for Israel as our Barack is for America and the whole world. Israel has crappy leaders, too.
So far as I've been able to find out, most of the suicide bombers Pape researched were from the 1980s. It's natural that the first generation of Hezbollah would have leftist roots.
That was a whole generation back, though. I really doubt most 20 year olds in the group today went through the Communist Party or had much experience in a socialist group.
Historical chrstianity made `Am Yisra'el the (Chas vechalilah!!!) "accursed people" in place of `Amaleq. The hatred the ancient churches and chrstian communities have for Jews and Israel is absolutely inconceivable to American Fundamentalists. The only "relief" in this area has occurred with the liberalism of the Second Vatican Council (Fundamentalist philo-Semitism is the only conservative christian philo-Semitism). And the ancient Middle Eastern churches are the absolute top of the heap/bottom of the pit when it comes to Jew hatred.
Middle Eastern (and Latin and Byzantine) chrstianity has always been adamantly opposed to any Jewish return to the ancient homeland. The Middle Eastern chrstians just a few years ago issued a statement stating that "Zionist chrstianity is not chrstianity at all." They despise American chrstians for supporting Israel as much as they do for interpreting the Bible literally.
When the Jews first started going back it was the chrstian Arabs, not the moslems, who opposed them the most. The ancient churches have always supported the PLO and opposed Israel (the only local exception being some Lebanese chrstians who have been allied militarily with Israel), but even Lebanon invaded Israel in '48.
American Evangelicals, these people are not "born again" chrstians as you interpret that expression. They are both anti-Israel and anti-American (and I'm not just talking about Obama's America). They don't believe J*sus will ever be a literal "king of the Jews" reigning from Jerusalem. And the notion that Zionism is a plot to bring about the reign of "antichrist" that Masonry is a hidden movement to rebuild the Jerusalem Temple and restore the Biblical polity is so ingrained among them that it's practically up there with the trinity and "incarnation."
These people are not Baptists. It is hypocritical for you to attack Roman Catholicism and then act as if the ancient Middle Eastern churches are long lost brothers.
Please understand that I am not saying that Middle Eastern chrstians deserve what's happening to them or that we shouldn't do something about it. But our policy should be based on reality--not on historical fantasy.
Pro-Israel Fundamentalist Protestants should simply avoid all Middle Eastern chrstian organizations and gatherings. Yes, help them, but don't fool yourselves into thinking you are all "brothers" because you aren't.
This is all most unpleasant, but it is true.
This article is bovine excrement. Molly Hemingway can go to hell.
They haven't always been pacifists, however. That's a new thing caused by the fear that somewhere some Jew sill benefit.
It ain't the "demented dispensationalists" who teach evolution and higher criticism, Romulus.
You're right though. Fundamentalist Protestantism isn't historical chrstianity and Fundamentalist Protestants should become Noachides. Let's educate them!
Was Lebanon a Christian nation in the forties? Fifties? Sixties?
Those who practice the ancient Torah delivered from the Mouth of G-d to their ancestors at Mt. Sinai are "heretics" and "rebels" against G-d whereas other people who replaced the ancient Torah with a new religious ritual are the transitioned, unchanged, "new Israel."
Understand that and you understand 2000 years of chrstianity.
Because uniting with the fox to guard the hen house is always such a dandy idea.
I have no idea who came up with the above idea but they are either stupid, deluded or third column. There are no other choices.
This is every bit a bright as dingy harry's bill to arm the Syrian "rebels" to fight ISIS.
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