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Lillian Gobitas Klose, 90, Dies; Stood Against Mandatory Pledge
New York Times ^ | 9/7/2014 | DOUGLAS MARTIN

Posted on 09/06/2014 10:27:11 PM PDT by Borges

Lillian Gobitas Klose, whose refusal, on religious grounds, to recite the Pledge of Allegiance as a seventh grader in a Pennsylvania public school in 1935 ignited national indignation, as well as a roiling legal fight that led to an expansion of First Amendment rights, died on Aug. 22 at her home in Fayetteville, Ga. She was 90.

Her daughter, Judith Klose, confirmed the death.

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1 posted on 09/06/2014 10:27:11 PM PDT by Borges
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2 posted on 09/06/2014 10:29:47 PM PDT by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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To: Borges

The commies must have loved her...


3 posted on 09/06/2014 10:33:20 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Every time you say no to a liberal, you make the Baby Barack cry.)
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To: Borges

When I was a kid in Texas, we were still saying the pledge, and still saying the Lord’s prayer, our Independent school district was among the top in the nation at the time.


4 posted on 09/06/2014 10:33:32 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Borges

Well, I guess she now knows whether she was right or wrong way back then.


5 posted on 09/06/2014 10:38:23 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is not a refugee camp or woman's shelter for illegals! It's my home! !)
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To: OrangeHoof

Per article she was a Jehovah’s Witness and following her preachers injunction against idolatry.
In other words following her religious conscience .


6 posted on 09/06/2014 10:40:37 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

See my post above.


7 posted on 09/06/2014 10:41:17 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: Borges

She was a brave little girl. It sounds like God rewarded her devotion.


8 posted on 09/06/2014 10:41:19 PM PDT by GrootheWanderer
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To: OrangeHoof
"The commies must have loved her..."

You have it backward. The pledge is Commie/Yankee propaganda. It is an oath of loyalty to the US Federal government.

9 posted on 09/06/2014 10:48:14 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro.)
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To: Borges

But “under God” wasn’t added until 1954.


10 posted on 09/06/2014 10:53:33 PM PDT by krizzy (NOT IN MY TROOP !)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

It’s not an issue of salvation, and sincere Christians (and political theorists) can sincerely disagree in their practice. To me, for it to be worth a hoot, it has to be voluntary.


11 posted on 09/06/2014 10:59:16 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Borges
Some history from Wikipedia: The original salute is pictured below:


12 posted on 09/06/2014 11:02:42 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro.)
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To: GrootheWanderer

I won’t pass judgment on what someone does when they’re 12 years old. I would say that half of my decisions at that age were horrible. RIP.


13 posted on 09/06/2014 11:02:58 PM PDT by Cry if I Wanna
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To: Borges
Don't stand so Klose to me
14 posted on 09/06/2014 11:19:32 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Kerry, as Obama's plenipotentiary, is a paradox - the physical presence of a geopolitical absence")
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To: Borges

The Pledge of Allegiance denies a fundamental right upheld in the Declaration of Independence—the right to secede.

It’s pathetic that so much “conservative” energy has been wasted on the Pledge. And on another nonsensical issue: prayer in government schools. That make as much sense as “prayer in brothels.”


15 posted on 09/06/2014 11:57:16 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“To me, for it to be worth a hoot, it has to be voluntary.”

As an oath, yes, but in schools it was educational, recited by children too young to be held to an oath.


16 posted on 09/07/2014 12:35:57 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: GrootheWanderer

Ummm hate to tell you but Jehovah’s Witness do not believe in Jesus as part of the trinity and several other heretical points. I don’t think that God will bless her at all


17 posted on 09/07/2014 1:27:24 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Arthur McGowan

The declaration gives no rights to anyone.... You are confused


18 posted on 09/07/2014 1:29:21 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

You’re right of course.... the rights come from God and are merely recognized in the Declaration and Constitution.


19 posted on 09/07/2014 2:29:12 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (The enemy's gate is down...and to the left.)
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To: Nifster; Arthur McGowan
The Pledge of Allegiance denies a fundamental right upheld in the Declaration of Independence—the right to secede.

It’s pathetic that so much “conservative” energy has been wasted on the Pledge.

15 posted on September 7, 2014 at 2:57:16 AM EDT by Arthur McGowan

The declaration gives no rights to anyone.... You are confused
I’m not sure that “upheld” and “given” are synonyms . . .
And on another nonsensical issue: prayer in government schools. That make as much sense as “prayer in brothels.”
Christian prayer was a civilizing influence in government schools - as it would be in any setting.

Though, to your actual point, I favor parental choice in, even control of, education.

As to the pledge, anyone interested in that issue should attend a naturalization ceremony. I did, a decade or so ago - and it was pretty pathetic. Speakers extolling "diversity."


20 posted on 09/07/2014 2:34:52 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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