Posted on 09/05/2014 9:45:00 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
Between the insulting defeat in 1962 at the hands of the Chinese and attaining the glorious heights with the victory in 1971 leading to the creation of Bangladesh, the Indian armed forces had a mixed-bag experience in the 22-day war with Pakistan in 1965.
In the run up to the 50th anniversary of the 1965 war, dissection of the conflict has begun with the Indian Air Force (IAF) veterans gathering in New Delhi on Friday to dissect what was the first full-blown air battle between the arch-rivals.
It was the test of the IAF's combat worthiness against the Pakistan Air Force's (PAF) formidable fleet of F-86F Sabres and superior air defence capabilities.
The result of the first air battles is highly contested with the "Sabre slayer" IAF taking significant hits with high rate of attrition and the PAF despite its much smaller size rattling the Indians with the devastation of the Pathankot base on September 6, 1965.
One of the first strikes saw the IAF lose more than 10 aircraft on ground.
The subsequent PAF strikes, however, on Adampur and Halwara were repulsed.
The war broke out when the IAF's modernisation plan was still taking off and the Pakistan Air Force had already stolen the march after signing the Baghdad pact and becoming a US ally.
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Toofani, seriously?
Also known as the “Ouragan”.
*shrugs*
It’s a Dassault product, they named it after flatulence.
“ hurricane”, “typhoon”, “ mystery”...
better than the Gnat!
lol
If you called it a Sabre or a MiG it might take me a bit to say otherwise.
Yes, many took cues from WWII data leftover from the germans.
Like the Messerschmitt p.1101
Some of them were built before the Germans were defeated though? Not the really good ones but I meant the P-59 and P-80 as examples.
The German data probably helped but I think we would have gotten there eventually
Be interesting to know how Pakistan used the F-104. There is a plane of much promise, but little operational employment as far as I know.
So?
Shoot back.
"millimeter?"
"No, caliber"
I just found a wiki page for something called the FR-1 Fireball... instigated by an Admiral John S mcCain....
jets AND props....
egads
71 were built but never saw combat and withdrawn in 1947 because of structural problems
Even though the Ta-183 huckebein never got beyond small model and mockup stage, it yielded some data.
Kurt Tank himself later went on to build a follow up to the Ta-183 called the “fma pulqui ii”.
But from the data gathered, everyone started building stubby engine stuffed tubes with wings.
Oh yeah.
Mixed power was a real thing for awhile.
Russians had a real ugly one too.
Mig i-250, sukhoi su-5 and such.
Since they had so few, they couldn’t operate them in combat and keep them flying.
You need a few always ready to sortie while others are being maintained.
9 or so is too few considering combat wear, breakage, and loss.
The Lockheed p-80 was interesting.
A kelly johnson product, it went from concept to prototype rapidly.
143 days.
It also killed Richard Ira Bong.
With the help of German scientists/war criminals brought through Operation Paperclip.
There is a much of speculation about Luftwaffe secret plans, but what is available from reliable sources is awe-inspiring enough. Striking resemblance to B1, B2.
reading about the Gnat... actually did some damage in the Indian-Pakistan conflicts
I heard the Thunderscreech could knock out windows and electronics sitting on the ground.
bump
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