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To: Kaslin

I thought that was always one of the basic principles of NATO, that an attack on one member was an attack on all of them. Obama’s wording seems designed to weaken that.


2 posted on 09/05/2014 10:33:17 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Ukraine is not a member of NATO.


4 posted on 09/05/2014 10:36:45 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Verginius Rufus

The real problem is that we have NO IDEA what the truth is. Obama says whatever, and these guys can put on a better productiion than Steven Spielberg. Putin knows Obama is a manchurian president, and he could easilly called him out for many crimes, that he simply continues to only hint at. They are pretending to have animosity.

What if this is all a plan to put Ukraine in Russians hands? While feigning opposition. This pretense is exactly what Narco Nation’s presidents do in the face the drug trafficking and criminal consequences.

The Deception Called out about Soros in Ukraine
http://www.westernjournalism.com/soros-funded-liberals-abandon-ukraine-putin/

The author claims NATO is the most pro US organization in thw world, but I think the organization has obviously been compromised years ago. Afghanistan is flooding world markets with cheap, pure, dangerous, heroin while NATO nations see no evil.

Soros Undue Influence in NATO Since 2000
http://www.nato.int/multi/photos/2000/m001109a.htm

NATO compromised by Soros et al
https://libyanfreepress.wordpress.com/category/soros/


9 posted on 09/05/2014 10:42:28 AM PDT by mgist (Semper Vigils)
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To: Verginius Rufus

True, “should” seems to be saying that the NATO alliance to defend Europe from Russia, is more of a suggestion of an alliance now.

This is sure a long ways from Reagan, and even George W. who wanted Ukraine in NATO, the only thing that save the free world from Russia before, was the certainty of NATO unity and resolve.


11 posted on 09/05/2014 10:43:23 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Verginius Rufus
Article 5 of the NATO Charter:

The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.

16 posted on 09/05/2014 11:00:50 AM PDT by kabar
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