Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Obesity rates reach historic highs in more U.S. states
MSN News ^ | September 4, 2014 | Reuters

Posted on 09/04/2014 8:16:11 AM PDT by detective

Rates of adult obesity increased in six U.S. states and fell in none last year, and in more states than ever - 20 - at least 30 percent of adults are obese, according to an analysis released on Thursday.

The conclusions were reported by the Trust for America's Health and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and were based on federal government data. They suggest the problem may be worsening despite widespread publicity about the nation's obesity epidemic, from First Lady Michelle Obama and many others, plus countless programs to address it.

From 2011 to 2012, by comparison, the rate of obesity increased in only one state.

The 2013 adult obesity rate exceeds 20 percent in every state, while 42 have rates above 25 percent. For the first time two states, Mississippi and West Virginia, rose above 35 percent. The year before, 13 states were above 30 percent and 41 had rates of at least 25 percent.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: lardass; obesity; trends
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120121-138 next last
To: Neoliberalnot
Finny, you get weak and pudgy because you are not getting adequate protein.

Exactly. Same amount of calories taken in -- but from different sources, so different outcome in caloric burn -- lean and vital when the calories burned come from one kind of food, weak and pudgy when they come from another kind of food.

It is true -- someone who is fat quite simply is ingesting more calories than he/she is using up. That is simple and that is TRUE.

Sure, if you burn more calories than you eat, you're going to lose weight. But that is not a daily model for living and never will be, carefully balancing calories in versus calories the same as balancing a checkbook. Efficient use of calories is crucial; calories may be "the same" in burn calculations, but they are as different in the real results as the food sources they represent in terms of nutrition.

Straight "calories-in-calories-out" computations are a deeply flawed way to loose weight. You have to RESPECT that the body is a biological machine in which the TYPE of calories in dramatically effect the QUALITY and RESULTS of calories burned via exercise.

101 posted on 09/04/2014 2:44:49 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 94 | View Replies]

To: Neoliberalnot

“If you consume 1000 per day and you burn 1100 per day from whatever source, you can’t maintain your weight.”

If you consume 1300 calories a day and burn 1100 and poop out an extra 400, what will your weight do?

If you are satisfied on 1100 calories a day of protein, fat and some carbs, are you better off weight-wise than if you need to take in 1800 calories to be satisfied? How long with you stick with an eating plan that leaves you constantly craving more food?

BTW - last night’s meal was a meat-rich chili. So far to day, as of 3 PM, I’ve had coffee and an 8 oz glass of whole milk, and I’m doing fine. But when I ate cereal for breakfast, or had bagels, I was hungry by noon and starting to get a headache. Which way of eating - and I prefer not to call it a diet - will help me control my weight?


102 posted on 09/04/2014 2:52:22 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 88 | View Replies]

To: nralife
These days there are fewer and fewer of you standing on that island and the sea of evidence is overtaking you.

You should probably spend more time with people who actually studied human nutrition, and who are doing the research that says you're wrong. There are a lot of them, and their conclusions come from sound scientific research, not the self reported calorie studies used by charlatans to sell diet advice and supplements.

Let me know when you come up with evidence that repudiates the first law of thermodynamics. I'll be waiting. In the meantime, be sure and let Michael Phelps know, along with all the other athletes out there, that they are unhealthy and in danger of becoming obese if they don't get off the carbohydrates. Let them know that ketosis is the better option for their energy needs.

Common sense, where art thou?

103 posted on 09/04/2014 2:59:53 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 90 | View Replies]

To: riri
It is glaring when you leave the country and come back. Go somewhere like Sweden or Spain and the women are thin and look like they just walked off the runway in Milan. Perfect care. They SMELL good. You would never leave the house, even to go to the market, in a pair of sweats or unkempt--the social stigma is too strong.

I lived in Estonia for three years. Arriving at a U.S. airport made me want to gouge my eyes out.

104 posted on 09/04/2014 3:07:29 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Neoliberalnot
Oops. Neglected to link the JAMA published study.

Comparison of Weight Loss Among Named Diet Programs in Overweight and Obese Adults A Meta-analysis

The study referenced by the NYT's was a small study, but one that looked at the issue in a unique way. Unfortunately, they didn't follow it through to an end where they could determine if low carb dieters experienced fewer heart attacks. Maybe future research will pick up where they left off. This debate has been ongoing for a long time and there are lots of studies showing that low carb diets work better, but there are an equal number showing that low fat diets work better. I think people should stick with whatever works rather than arguing over which one is better.

105 posted on 09/04/2014 3:12:35 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 95 | View Replies]

To: Mr Rogers
Really? You don’t poop? Ever? And you have 100% absorption of everything? If so, you are not human.

Oh, good grief. This is such nonsense. The human body is very greedy when it comes to calories and it does a good job of absorbing them regardless of what you poop.

but it may well be as much muscle loss as fat.

No, that's not how your body works. Your body burns fat before going to muscle, and then to organs, for energy.

Humans are not machines.

The human body is a machine that runs on the food you eat. Those different macronutrients (fat, protein, carbs) can influence how much you eat or how quickly you become satiated, but people get fat for one reason, and that reason is consuming more energy than you expend. Period.

106 posted on 09/04/2014 3:33:49 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 100 | View Replies]

To: nralife
Interesting link. I was going to post on the Krebs Cycle and the idiocy of "calorie in and out" nonsense, but your link was adequate. The same old "tag team" will be by I'm sure to tell you that the writer is not an MD. I really don't know what motivates those posters. Sound logic is not one of them

Thanks for the link.
107 posted on 09/04/2014 3:36:55 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: Mase

You go on believing the nonsense you are shoving. The US Government agrees with you...and doing what the US government says to do has caused an epidemic of fat people.

But the body doesn’t always burn fat first, as many dieters can attest. And the body is not 100% efficient at processing food. And the human body is not a machine, and anyone saying otherwise is biologically stupid.


108 posted on 09/04/2014 3:44:01 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 106 | View Replies]

To: nralife
Nobody is saying that couldn't work. What we are saying is that a diet low in carbs, while even consuming more calories, said person could lose even MORE weight and faster! When it comes to burning fat cells, a calories is not a calorie. On top of that, the blood work would be improved and the threat of heart disease lessened.

Very good point. On a Very Low Carbohydrate (VLC) diet, triglyceride levels drop dramatically. This is important for HDL and triglyceride ratios. This ratio seems to be one of the few indicators of heart disease risk in the entire cholesterol debate.
109 posted on 09/04/2014 3:52:52 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 85 | View Replies]

To: Mase
Let me know when you come up with evidence that repudiates the first law of thermodynamics. I'll be waiting. In the meantime, be sure and let Michael Phelps know, along with all the other athletes out there, that they are unhealthy and in danger of becoming obese if they don't get off the carbohydrates. Let them know that ketosis is the better option for their energy needs.

Common sense, where art thou?

Did you have red herring for dinner? When and if Michael Phelps stops working out and becomes a couch potato, then yes, he should probably cut way back on carbs. The idea of a weight loss diet is to lose weight. I wasn't under the impression that Michael needed to lose weight. In fact, he might need the carbs for energy. And he certainly doesn't need to go into ketosis to supply his energy needs. Ketosis is to lose weight, and then to come out of it by gradually eating more carbs. When a person starts gaining weight again, they should cut back just a bit on the carbs to find their ideal carb intake. Exercise is always encouraged. A Michael Phelps is not comparable to your average person who simply needs to lose weight, although he does show that a very active person can eat just about anything they want. Unfortunately, we can't all be a Michael Phelps.

The NYT article touched on improved heart health for those on low-carb diets. Do some searching and you will see lots of other studies saying the same thing...

P.S. The first law of thermodynamics be damned. It's a simpleton's way of discussing human nutrition and losing weight. When losing weight, a calorie is not a calorie. It's just the way it is...

110 posted on 09/04/2014 3:53:22 PM PDT by nralife
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 103 | View Replies]

To: Mr Rogers
Nothing you said is untrue, but you still have to put IN more calories than you burn OFF to gain weight. Another huge part of it is when you eat- consuming most of your calories right before sleep will cause much slower loss, or more rapid gain than eating them first thing in the morning or over the course of a day.

but fundamentally, it *IS* like gas- you can't keep driving if you don't put gas in the car. It's true that as you get near an optimum body weight or even lower the body becomes much more efficient, but I can't believe the level of basic scientific ignorance amongst some posters; you simply cannot gain or maintain weight if you burn off more calories than you eat; no more possible than floating away because you don't believe in gravity or violating basic physics any other way. It is possible to eat very little and hardly lose weight, but if you eat less than you burn your body will burn whatever it can, starting with carbs in the blood, going to fat and then catabolizing muscle.

111 posted on 09/04/2014 3:53:51 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: PA Engineer
Interesting link. I was going to post on the Krebs Cycle and the idiocy of "calorie in and out" nonsense, but your link was adequate. The same old "tag team" will be by I'm sure to tell you that the writer is not an MD. I really don't know what motivates those posters. Sound logic is not one of them. Thanks for the link.

You're welcome! Yes, I think I ran into the tag team already. I agree...

112 posted on 09/04/2014 4:02:29 PM PDT by nralife
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 107 | View Replies]

To: PA Engineer

Go ahead and post the Krebs cycle, post beta oxidation of fat, post the deamination of amino acids. Are you an engineer? Before today, I had never seen a post by mase. I have raised lots of livestock kept track of feed efficiency, and done experiments using pigs, horses, cattle, and rodents. This is part of what I have been doing for several decades. Please post your metabolic pathways and inform us all. As an engineer do you follow the advice of the lay press or professional journals?


113 posted on 09/04/2014 4:06:32 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 107 | View Replies]

To: Neoliberalnot
Go ahead and post the Krebs cycle, post beta oxidation of fat, post the deamination of amino acids. Are you an engineer? Before today, I had never seen a post by mase. I have raised lots of livestock kept track of feed efficiency, and done experiments using pigs, horses, cattle, and rodents. This is part of what I have been doing for several decades. Please post your metabolic pathways and inform us all. As an engineer do you follow the advice of the lay press or professional journals?

I didn't post to you moron. We already have you figured out. Were you a breech birth? Is anoxia your normal metabolic state? Did you really think that you are so important that anyone would talk about you?

The only thing you have done for "several decades" is to fool yourself into thinking you are an authority on anything.
114 posted on 09/04/2014 4:37:49 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 113 | View Replies]

To: Finny; Neoliberalnot

A few years ago I spotted a photograph of American G.I.’s purportedly taken right after they were freed from a Japanese prisoner of war camp.

The website displayed the photo as evidence of the starvation conditions under which the GI’s were held captive.

I could not believe my eyes, because the GI’s in the photo looked pretty trim and fit—nothing like people who suffered deprivation at all.

My only guess is that the normal sized men in the photo appeared to the person who posted the photo as if they were starved half to death, when in fact they seemed perfectly normal to me.


115 posted on 09/04/2014 5:47:56 PM PDT by Age of Reason
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | View Replies]

To: PA Engineer

The only thing you have done for “several decades” is to fool yourself into thinking you are an authority on anything.””

Wow, even resorted to name calling. An engineer huh?


116 posted on 09/05/2014 4:16:59 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 114 | View Replies]

To: PghBaldy

People are getting fatter from my observations.

I attend a lot of parent events at the school and I’m in the store a few times a week and I’ve noticed that people are fatter. When I go to the scouting events, I’m the smallest adults in the room and I’m a 180lb 6ft male.
They eat crappy, carbo loaded, “low fat” food, jam themselves into “yoga pants” and head off to Starbucks for a 800 calorie drink. Then they “exercise”.


117 posted on 09/05/2014 4:27:33 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Finny

> Really? What about the “we” who say, “I’ll pass on all the carbs and eat smart instead”?

Obese people are obese because of bad eating choices. No one is forcing them to make those choices. <

I agree with you that passing up the carbs is key. However, until the medical community quits beating the “low calorie, low fat” drum, we are going to see a high percentage of obese people. Americans eat more sugar today than they ever have. Registered dietitians tell diabetes patients to “eat healthy whole grains”, despite the physiological fact that grain products make even a healthy individual’s blood sugar rise.

As you know, cutting out processed starches acts as a natural appetite suppressant, so when you eat moderate protein, higher fat and get your carbohydrates from green vegetables, you do indeed end up losing weight. Now, if the medical professionals would quit spreading disinformation, perhaps the obese could actually make informed choices.

A good friend of mine has gone from 316 to 270 since April, just by eliminating starches from his diet.


118 posted on 09/05/2014 7:37:54 AM PDT by Darnright (To reach something good, it is very useful to have gone astray, and thus acquire experience.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Huskrrrr

Oooops! Here comes a major roadblock in the quest for higher wages for fast food workers- AUTOMATION.

http://www.businessinsider.com/momentum-machines-burger-robot-2014-8

Price yourself out of the labor market at your own risk.

Limited skills = limited value.


119 posted on 09/05/2014 7:38:56 AM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Mase

>It seems that every dieter who tries to lose weigh, but can’t, believes they have some special kind of physiology that defies science. That’s when they find their way to charlatans like Taubes who tell them what they want to hear....It’s not your fault.....then they come to forums like this to tell us all that it is a scientific fact that the first law of thermodynamics applies to everything on earth but them......because they can’t lose weight, and it’s not their fault.<

I’m not sure what this last statement has to do with the fact that eliminating processed starches from one’s diet can and does indeed allow a large percentage of people to shed pounds, when they have failed to do so by simple reduction of calories (made up from the standard American diet).

There is a fairly good-sized (pun intended) percentage of Freepers who have lost a lot of weight and who have kept it off simply by eating a diet that includes animal fats, moderate protein, green, low-carbohydrate veggies and by eliminating processed starches, grains and white potatoes from their plates.

By adopting such a diet, people do find their appetite drops and thus they do tend to eat less food over time.


120 posted on 09/05/2014 8:11:33 AM PDT by Darnright (To reach something good, it is very useful to have gone astray, and thus acquire experience.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120121-138 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson