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Britain to spearhead 10,000-strong Nato rapid reaction force to halt Putin's 'Tsarist expansionism'
dailymail.co.uk ^ | August 30, 2014 | Will Stewart

Posted on 08/30/2014 2:54:55 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

224 Canadians stopped 10,000 Chinese in Korea.

Sometimes it’s not about numbers but the will to win.


141 posted on 08/30/2014 7:36:45 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: ansel12

False numbers game leading to wishful thinking. Military science doesn’t work that way.


142 posted on 08/30/2014 7:43:13 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

What doesn’t work is your pretending something that isn’t real, and calling it “military science”.

You have an agenda of trying to convince people of an absurdity, that the United States, Great Britain, France, Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, and 22 other nations will never be able to defeat Russia if it continues this attack and forces a war.

That is absurd, but evidently useful to our Soviet crowd.


143 posted on 08/30/2014 7:49:13 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Bulwyf

Yes, anyone can bring up instances of winning against long odds, such as Thermopylae and the one you described, because they’re so rare.


144 posted on 08/30/2014 7:55:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: ansel12
You have an agenda of trying to convince people of an absurdity, that the United States, Great Britain, France, Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, and 22 other nations will never be able to defeat Russia if it continues this attack and forces a war.

Wishful thinking based on patently false assumptions. You'd do better in sticking to this with your simplistic numbers game...


145 posted on 08/30/2014 7:57:12 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: ansel12
Why not the 173rd Airborne stationed in Northern Italy?
146 posted on 08/30/2014 8:01:52 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: catfish1957

They can cut off the oil, who cares, Canada and the US have more than they do.


147 posted on 08/30/2014 8:03:09 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Timber Rattler

Why don’t you show us your magic numbers and military capabilities, so far, you haven’t.

Show us how Putin’s untried military with limited capabilities and a total of 766,000 active duty, (of all branches) backed by a population of a 144 million civilians , defeats the United States, Great Britain, France, Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, and all of the 28 NATO nations of Europe combined?


148 posted on 08/30/2014 8:16:12 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
What I said March 19, 2014.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3135210/posts?page=7#7

Here is what I said July 29, 2014 (I included South$hit’$ response).
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3186668/replies?c=13

And my reasoning why we needed to send PootyPoot a message:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3186668/posts?page=30#30

Now we are in deep horse dung with very poor leadership.
I hope this German Commander is real good because Obama and his toady administration is real bad. The last century proved the the Euros were not really good at avoiding HUGE World Wars.
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=23883

149 posted on 08/30/2014 8:25:14 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Chgogal

The 173rd Airborne that was moved to Poland and the Baltic states, will be rotated out and the 1st Cavalry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team will be moving in, in October.

Also:
“Earlier this year, about 1,200 soldiers from 1st BCT participated in the Combined Resolve II exercise at the Joint Multinational Training Command in Germany in preparation for Operation Atlantic Resolve.

In June, the brigade sent an infantry company to Saber Strike, a security cooperation exercise primarily focused on the three Baltic states and involving about 4,500 troops from 10 countries, said Capt. John Farmer, the brigade spokesman.

Soldiers from the brigade also are scheduled to participate in Combined Resolve III later this year, also at JMTC.

The 1st BCT was first regionally aligned with Europe late last summer. As part of their alignment, they also are the U.S. contingent of the NATO Response Force, a multinational force designed to deploy quickly wherever needed, whether it be for disaster response and humanitarian relief, or stabilization operations and combat operations.”


150 posted on 08/30/2014 8:26:02 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Chgogal

Putin seems to relish a new world war.

I have a feeling Moscow and ISIS could become allies and that China will definitely lash out at Taiwan and other places.


151 posted on 08/30/2014 8:27:13 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: ansel12
Show us how Putin’s untried military with limited capabilities and a total of 766,000 active duty, (of all branches) backed by a population of a 144 million civilians , defeats the United States, Great Britain, France, Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, and all of the 28 NATO nations of Europe combined?

Pure silliness.

152 posted on 08/30/2014 8:30:46 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: GeronL
You mean Chechen fighters fighting along WITH PootyPoot? Interesting.
153 posted on 08/30/2014 8:36:14 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Timber Rattler

Putin’s military is hardly untried, they fought in Chechnya and Georgia and other places for years. Military spending has gone up more than 30% since 2008 while everywhere else has seen military spending cuts.

Putin invaded a much smaller country that Russians and their allies have been looting since 2003. It had very little real military capability left. They finally throw the yoke of Moscow off their necks and get invaded for their efforts.


154 posted on 08/30/2014 8:37:48 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

Russia hasn’t come close to having to exercise the capabilities that it would take to fight a war against advanced Western militaries since WWII, we have been fighting their proxy armies equipped with Russian gear and trained by Russians, on open battlefields over the years.

We are used to fighting big wars in far away places, it would be a luxury for us to get to fight from our bases in Europe, and alongside our buddies and with the infrastructure of Western Europe at our back.


155 posted on 08/30/2014 8:47:41 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12
You are right!!! Poland is involved too.

http://www.army.mil/article/125040/

ADAZI, Latvia (April 30, 2014)— Approximately 600 paratroopers, from the 173rd Airborne Brigade, deployed for training rotations in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland, April 23-28, to enhance ongoing military-to-military relationships and demonstrate assurance of America's commitment to its NATO allies.

The fourth groups of paratroopers to arrive in the Baltic region were from the brigade's Company C, 2nd Battalion, 503rd Infantry Regiment, who arrived at Amari Air Field, Estonia, Monday.

“Have you heard of the 173rd Airborne Brigade?” asked Estonian President Toomas Hendrik Ilves during his opening remarks. “With boots on the ground and dirt on our face, we'll defend your freedom anytime, anyplace’ — [it] is the song of the 173rd Airborne Brigade.”

“Here in Estonia we like that song,” Ilves continued. “The transatlantic link is not something that Estonians take for granted. Rather, we see it as a vital element of security in an unsecure world. This is why we so appreciate allied boots on the ground here. Estonia is a country that has always appreciated and liked the United States of America.”

The four companies from the 173rd Infantry Brigade Combat Team (Airborne) are scheduled to remain in the region until the end of the year, completing bilateral training with the brigade's partners and participating in multinational European land force exercise like Saber Strike, later this summer.

These training rotations “are an obvious manifestation of the commitment between our countries and this alliance,” said Longo. “It's all about commitment. It's all about capability, and it's all about trust. This is the beginning, not the end [of our military relationships] - so let's get started.”

156 posted on 08/30/2014 8:51:20 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Timber Rattler
What is silly? Do you have different stats? Please explain. TY
157 posted on 08/30/2014 8:55:21 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Chgogal

The free world must stand together.

“These American paratroopers “with their Polish brothers from the 6th Airborne Brigade, are a tangible manifestation of the U.S. commitment to this region,” said Longo. “They have come to train with their elite airborne comrades, to learn from each other and to continue their on-going persistent partnership that has been ongoing.”

At the ceremony, the assembled troops were reminded of what it means to be brothers in arms when the Polish minister of national defense, Tomasz Siemoniak, spoke of an ultimate sacrifice that an American Soldier made for his Polish comrade.

The relationship between the Poland and America is one thing Polish forces value, said Siemoniak.

“We have served together, and we have shed blood together and Iraq and Afghanistan. [Staff Sgt.] Michael Ollis fell last year in Ghazni [Afghanistan], saving the life of his Polish colleague. Polish soldiers shall not forget him.”

Ollis, a Soldier with the 10th Mountain Division (Light Infantry), died protecting a Polish soldier from a suicide bomber during an attack on Forward Operating Base Ghazni, Aug. 28, 2013, in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. Ollis was posthumously decorated for his valor by the Polish state with the Polish Army Medal in gold, the highest award a non-Polish service member can receive.”


158 posted on 08/30/2014 8:58:10 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Timber Rattler
I see your point. In addition to your reasons, I am uncomfortable with having Obama as CIC.
159 posted on 08/30/2014 8:59:33 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: ansel12

Maybe Poland will name a Light Infantry Division after him


160 posted on 08/30/2014 9:00:09 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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