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Hagel going to Turkey as US tries to build ‘coalition of the willing’ against the Islamic State
Stars & Stripes ^ | 8/29/2014 | Jon Harper

Posted on 08/29/2014 7:41:15 PM PDT by markomalley

Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel will visit Turkey as the U.S. government tries to build a “coalition of the willing” take on Islamic militants in Syria, the Pentagon announced Friday.

“Turkey is a key NATO ally. And given its border with Syria and Iraq, they share our deep concerns with … the regional threat posed by ISIL,” Pentagon Press Secretary Rear Adm. John Kirby told reporters.

ISIL is one of the acronyms used to refer to the militant group the Islamic State, which has taken over large swathes of Syria and Iraq in recent months.

The U.S. military has been bombing Islamic State targets in Iraq since Aug. 8, and consideration is being given to expanding the air campaign into neighboring Syria.

“Can [the Islamic State] be defeated without addressing that part of their organization which resides in Syria? The answer is no,” Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Martin Dempsey told reporters last week.

The White House has asked the Pentagon to present military options along these lines.

U.S. officials have said that enlisting allies and partners in the region is key to defeating the militants, and have suggested that the Obama administration will attempt to do so before any potential strikes in Syria are launched.

“We want a coalition of the willing. We want to seek partners in this effort,” Kirby said.

Hagel’s stop in Turkey will come near the end of a six-day international trip which begins Wednesday.

“Secretary Hagel has longstanding relationships with Turkey’s leaders, including the newly-inaugurated President [Recep Tayyip] Erdogan, and he views this visit as an important opportunity to advance our critical relationship,” Kirby said.

Turkey is a long-standing ally of the U.S., but has sometimes opposed American military operations in the Middle East, including the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Getting Ankara’s support for further action against the Islamic State would be a major benefit for the United States.

Incirlik Air Base in Turkey, operated by the U.S. Air Force, could be a launching pad for strikes against the militants or a base for conducting intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance flights in Syria.

Persuading the Turkish government to stop allowing Islamic militants to transit through Turkey on their way from Europe to Syria would also be a diplomatic victory. Many believe Turkey has turned a blind eye to the movements because the militants are fighting the Assad regime, which Ankara sees as an enemy.

“States in the region [need to] stop being ambivalent about these extremist groups,” President Barack Obama said at a White House press conference Thursday.

The president announced that he is also sending Secretary of State John Kerry to the region to rally support.

“Our message to the entire region is this should be a wake-up call to Sunni, to Shia, to everybody that a group like [the Islamic State] is beyond the pale; that they have no vision or ideology beyond violence and chaos and the slaughter of innocent people. And as a consequence, we’ve got to all join together — even if we have differences on a range of political issues — to make sure that they’re rooted out,” Obama said.

However, it’s unclear whether the U.S. will be able to rally the kind of support that it’s looking for.

When asked if any regional allies or partners had promised to support a potential American air campaign in Syria, Kirby said, “I’m not aware of any such pledged.”

Kirby noted that governments in the region are sometimes constrained by domestic politics.

“When you work on a coalition of the willing like that, everybody is encouraged to bring what they can and what they’re willing to,” he said. “[But] they all have domestic you know domestic legislative issues they have to deal with … Every country has to decide for themselves in accordance with the wishes of their people what they’re willing to do … It’s not about us mandating it.”


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: globaljihad; mistake; ottoman; rop; sultan
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To: Zenjitsuman

“Turkey is a key NATO ally....” ?????????????


21 posted on 08/29/2014 9:01:22 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldnÂ’t make any sense at all." -- Pres. Reagan)
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To: markomalley

The US and Turkey founded, funded and trained isis. Just sayin’.


22 posted on 08/29/2014 9:01:37 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: stocksthatgoup

Turkey wasn’t worried about the ISIS a few weeks ago


23 posted on 08/29/2014 9:01:58 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: markomalley

Just now!!!! Hagel is on a “coalition of the willing” building mission????? And ISIS has been growing in Syria and Iraq for how many weeks!!!

The amateur is totally reactionary when it comes to foreign policy & mostly reactionary on the media’s global show. Only when the media message is at last noting O’s non-policy in some area, does Obama’s policy wheels spring to life. Meanwhile, until he starts to feel the media heat, he has no policy, & none in the making.

Will he finally get a policy on helping Ukraine, when Russian jets are flying over Kiev?

I bet he had to be dragged into it, by everyone in his admin outside of himself, before he tied the knot on the final action on Bin Laden.


24 posted on 08/29/2014 9:50:34 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: markomalley

Islam in a Nutshell
Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam.

Islam, not the Chinese nor the Russians, represent the greatest threat to the world and might be the fulfillment of the book of Revelation in the Holy Bible. This is very disturbing for a Christian to read, but read it and be educated.

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

Here’s how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States — Muslim 0.6%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1.8%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law.

The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:

Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and is on-going in:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrassas are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

‘Before I was nine, I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel.’ — Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today ‘s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population. But their birth rates are higher than the birth rates of Christians,Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.

Well, boys and girls, today we are letting the fox guard the henhouse.

The wolves will be herding the sheep!

NOTE : Has anyone ever heard a new government official being identified as a devout Catholic, a devout Jew or a devout Protestant...? Just wondering.

Devout Muslims being appointed to critical Homeland Security positions? Doesn’t this make you feel safer already??

That should make the United States much safer, huh!!

Was it not “Devout Muslim men “ that flew planes into U.S. buildings only 10 years ago?

We must never forget this.

Was it not a Devout Muslim man who killed 13 at Fort Hood? (He killed “From within” - don’t forget that).

Also: This is very interesting and we all need to read it from start to finish. Maybe this is why our American Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities. Can a good Muslim be a good American? This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:

Theologically - no . . . Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon God of Arabia
Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)(Koran)
Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.
Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.
Politically - no. Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.
Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34 )
Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression.. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually - no. Because when we declare ‘one nation under God,’ the Christian’s God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran’s 99 excellent names.

Therefore, after much study and deliberation. ... Perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. - - - They obviously cannot be both ‘good’ Muslims and good Americans.

Call it what you wish, it’s still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future. The religious war is bigger than we know or understand.

Can a Muslim be a good soldier?

Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, opened fire at Ft. Hood and Killed 13. He is a good Muslim!

Footnote: The Muslims have said they will destroy us from within.

SO FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.


25 posted on 08/29/2014 10:13:05 PM PDT by B-Cause (The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money - Thatcher)
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To: markomalley

Hagel seems to be a paid liar who is by presidential appointment tangled up into this charade of negotiations, and is just now realizing that he is overwhelmed by the damage done to our allies long before his arrival. Hagel is feeling out of his depth. I don’t think Turkey is a safe place for Hagel right now. Not at all safe for an American Diplomat from Obama’s Administration. There are a lot of hard feelings among those formally proud to call themselves American Allies. Now, it is a liability to tie your fortunes to the White House Whims. This White House knows not the meaning of confidential information unless it’s data that protects their president.


26 posted on 08/29/2014 11:51:22 PM PDT by lee martell
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