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This is an exit barrier. A paper "Berlin Wall" is being erected against US citizens.

On a lighter note, $2350 is still pretty cheap to get rid of the IRS forever. When it goes to $25,000, time to panic.

1 posted on 08/29/2014 1:42:28 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Berlin wall? You don’t have to renounce your citizenship to leave the country. Leave whenever you like. Not much of a wall.


2 posted on 08/29/2014 1:44:43 PM PDT by Sparklite
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I’ve been saying for years they will never build walls at the border unless they’re trying to keep us from escaping


3 posted on 08/29/2014 1:45:34 PM PDT by Califreak (Hope and Che'nge is killing U.S.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

A fee to leave...wow!


4 posted on 08/29/2014 1:46:42 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

That doesn’t include the Expatriation tax.


5 posted on 08/29/2014 1:46:50 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Like every failing socialist regime, we don’t build fences to keep people out, we build barriers to keep them in.*

*Apologies to whoever first said this because I don’t recall where I first heard it.


6 posted on 08/29/2014 1:47:01 PM PDT by BlueYonder
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I believe that it was Milton Friedman who observed that, when a nation enacts higher barriers to “capital flight,” it is well on its way to banana republic status.


7 posted on 08/29/2014 1:47:16 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Former Proud Canadian

The price to denounce one’s citizenship should be FREE. we have already paid for these bureaucrats. $2,350 is absurd. people will just leave and won’t bother renouncing.


8 posted on 08/29/2014 1:47:35 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Former Proud Canadian; Sparklite; Califreak

Unlike East Germans, North Koreans, Poles, etc. we are very heavily armed.


9 posted on 08/29/2014 1:48:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Get rid of the income tax and IRS altogether and we won’t need to worry about people leaving.

But...it’s not going to happen because our corrupt leaders would have no control over our entire lives.

F U B O! & THE IRS


10 posted on 08/29/2014 1:48:06 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

If you are not free to leave, you are not free.


11 posted on 08/29/2014 1:48:24 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Straight out of the Soviet Union.

In a Communist State, you are their property. Everything you have, they own, and you got it only because they gave it to you.

Thus the rationale for fees.

Straight on Communism.


13 posted on 08/29/2014 1:48:55 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Former Proud Canadian
This is an exit barrier. A paper "Berlin Wall" is being erected against US citizens.

That's exactly what it is.Unless the government can prove that cash (any amount) you want to take out of the country was illegally obtained (drugs,for example) there should be no impediments to so doing.This should go to SCOTUS.

15 posted on 08/29/2014 1:52:57 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party policy;Lie,deny,refuse to comply)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
About 15 years ago, this process was free. Then they started to "recover the processing costs". Now it looks like a barrier tax.

The mechanics of expatriation FWIW: You go to a U.S. embassy or consulate (you have to be abroad to expatriate yourself). You swear a renunciation oath, sign in triplicate and leave the embassy.

About three months later, after DC lawyers agree that you're not insane nor pulling a stunt, you get a Certificate of Loss of Nationality (CLN) back dated to the day you swore the oath.

Now you're no longer an American. You may be something else - you may even be "stateless". If you want to visit the folks in Kansas, you'll need a visa (or just walk across from Mexico).

20 posted on 08/29/2014 1:56:54 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Didn't the nazi's do something like this to the Jews trying to leave?

Yet, we'll pay to let the illegals come in.

Unreal.

23 posted on 08/29/2014 2:04:08 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Inversion headed companies will be next: An "Exit Fee" to relocate your HQ.

SOON Sam, SOON

26 posted on 08/29/2014 2:18:31 PM PDT by onona (My mind = gallimaufry)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

It’s a good question whether such exit taxes will work, or if people will just leave and go to countries that are not very demanding about paperwork. The government is only interested in the money, so if someone launders their money out first, then just goes, as long as they keep it liquid, they might get away with it.

They won’t be doing any business elsewhere, so it is basically just retirement.


33 posted on 08/29/2014 3:50:12 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Senators Chuck Schumer and Bob Casey introduced a bill to double the exit tax to 30% for anyone leaving the U.S. for tax reasons

Only thing wrong with their plan is 30% is not high enough.

34 posted on 08/29/2014 4:09:13 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Worth noting that they are not charging for relinquishment of citizenship - just renunciation.


38 posted on 08/29/2014 5:02:40 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Just claim we are leaving for sake of gang violence. It’s good enough for illegals from Honduras it’s good enough for people leaving the gangsters in DC.

By the way. I’m travelling the world currently...


48 posted on 08/29/2014 10:35:51 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Fast forward to the 21’55” mark: http://crooksandliars.com/2014/08/joe-stiglitz-we-need-fair-taxes-all

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49 posted on 08/29/2014 11:48:08 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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