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Why Republicans Will Take the Senate
Realclearpolitics ^ | August 28, 2014

Posted on 08/28/2014 8:16:57 PM PDT by SMGFan

Netting six Senate seats is a challenge, especially since part of that equation would require Republicans to retain their own competitive seats in places like Georgia and Kentucky. But Republicans believe that the stars, moons, and planets are all aligning for just such a changing tide this November.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Georgia; US: Kansas; US: Kentucky; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: georgia; kansas; kentucky; louisiana
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Does this really mean anything if the Republicans that win are Rhinos?

Yes, unless of course, they are RINOs. Which still doesn’t matter as long as that gives us control of the committees.

And it really doesn’t matter if they are able to elect Ted Cruz as President of the Senate.


Very good points.


21 posted on 08/28/2014 9:48:19 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: TomGuy; SMGFan

There only way the GOP takes the Senate is if Conservatives in other states besides KY and MS put them over the top. I don’t see it happening. I see the machine securing their seats in most places and if it was is, the corruption will ensure that the Democrats hold on.

Not that it matters anymore.

I will not vote for McConnell this November. I plan to write in a Conservative and that is our campaign. I have not seen a single Mitch sign ANYWHERE out here, even in places I normally used to see a strong GOP presence. Conservatives are disgusted and despondent and pretty much throwing up their hands and saying there is no point in voting for a slime like McConnell.

All I see are Alison signs and Democrat candidate signs by and large. I said it in June - McConnell went to war on Conservatives in the Primary, and will lose to Grimes in the General. That looks to be the case, and he deserves to lose, and lose big.

Most Conservatives out here are planning on either staying home or not voting for the Senate race at all to vote only for locals seats.

After what transpired in MS, I imagine the same thing there.

There is no opposition party to the Democrats any longer. It’s all MarxoFascist now.


22 posted on 08/28/2014 10:23:05 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fantasywriter
Rasmussen was one of two polls showing Romney ahead of Obama in the days before the election. So it may have gone to hell, but they don't seem to be shilling for the dems. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
23 posted on 08/28/2014 10:25:25 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: SMGFan

I do not care

If by losing we can purge more GOPe bastards

Then its well worth it


24 posted on 08/28/2014 10:26:54 PM PDT by wardaddy (Ferguson MO...but i thought blacks went north to escape the racism of mean ol southerners)
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To: wardaddy

Democrats will hold the senate for one and only one reason...

Us. We are the 600 pound elephant in the room. The republican party has lost the conservative vote and without that they won’t be able to take seats. Which means we also lose the white house and when Ginsburg and other SCOTUS retire we will lose that also.

Not saying its bad. Not saying its good. Just saying....


25 posted on 08/29/2014 12:40:14 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Manchuria Called. They want their Candidate Back!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

According to art. I sec. 3 cl. 4 of the U.S. Constitution, the Vice President of the United States (Joe Biden) serves as President of the Senate. Do you mean if the Republicans elect Ted Cruz as the new Senate Majority Leader? (Assuming, of course, that Republicans win a majority come next Congress.)


26 posted on 08/29/2014 1:00:42 AM PDT by right-wing agnostic (The Democratic Party's symbol is an ass because ALL DEMOCRATS are @$$holes!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I no longer believe elections determine the rulers in the country.

I believe we saw our last quasi-honest national election in 2008.

We suffered a velvet coup and few to none are willing to admit it.

Democrats will hold the senate because the Ruling Class has engineered it to be so. Just like in Stalin’s Soviet and Hitler’s Reich, there are enough Americans willing to seig-heil the government as their god, and enough manipulators rigging elections to create the illusion of choice so as to placate the people into submission to what is being done to them.

We are being replaced.

Deuteronomy 28:15-67 comes to mind when you consider everything that is happening in our country right now.


27 posted on 08/29/2014 1:04:48 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: SMGFan

It’s tough beating the givers of “free stuff.”

The GOP will see a +4 gain in the Senate.


28 posted on 08/29/2014 2:08:53 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: headstamp 2

Sure, the GOP doesn’t do itself any favors, but the country is inexorably shifting leftward. Conservative ideals are seen as anachronistic by increasing numbers of voters with each passing election.


29 posted on 08/29/2014 2:12:41 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: Fantasywriter

I would suggest that at least forty percent of the McDaniel primary voters won’t vote in November, or will vote Democrat. I’d even go out on the limb and suggest that forty percent of the Cochan voters either won’t vote (they were primary-Democrats-voting-Republican) or just disenchanted Republicans looking at the scheme that developed (thus refusing to vote again for Cochan).

What this leads to? Wicker will get more votes than he’d ever anticipated and it’ll turn into a fairly close race.

So, my feeling is that it’s all scripted. You could tell that Cochan had run out of steam and mental alertness back in 2009. The Republican Party of Mississippi should have gone out and found their best replacement and pursued that guy/gal as a replacement. They didn’t do it....pursuing the alternate strategy of getting the lobbyists all in a room and agreeing on Wicker as the best lobbyist-Senator, and scripted this whole election to get Wicker easily into the Senator’s chair.

Presently, even if Cochan were to accidentally win....he’ll just announce his retirement in the fall of 2015, and have the governor replace him. Pretty nifty system in Mississippi.....not any real Republican or Democratic Party stuff....just lobbyists working on a guy to represent them and rig up the election to look real but fake.


30 posted on 08/29/2014 2:33:19 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: INVAR

It all comes down to which party can deliver the most “free stuff”. Dems win hands down and continue to control the senate. I will no longer participate in this charade.


31 posted on 08/29/2014 4:16:48 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the '17th amendment)
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To: SMGFan
Reading all the Fr-er post so far I am still amazed at the wisdom found here. We are usually ahead of the curve. I remember telling my auto gnome that the anti-GM sentiment was huge here on FR and it was a huge story that no one saw. 2 months later on WJR am 760 Detwaa, Frank Beckmann the 9 to 12 guy opens up the phones with the question will the GM bailout effect your purchases? He was stunned to hear life long GM families call in and say I am done not again, no new GM cars in my driveway.

Something similar is happening here again on FR. The disdain for the EGOP is palatable and IMHO can be measured and become a "metric". The GOP and all it's inside the beltway minions Krutehammer, Kristol etc etc that don't get us, never talk to us ( and may never ), and who have never been to a tea party meeting, better get to know us soon, or forever return to the day's of Minority Leader Bob Michaels.

Because you good folks see it coming, this November is not gonna be what the EGOP think it is going to be and they are the definition of insanity, by doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

So this is what I'd like to say to the EGOP around or about Nov. 8th 2016; How's that negating Conservative Candidates especially in the Senate workin' for ya...

32 posted on 08/29/2014 4:19:07 AM PDT by taildragger (Not my Circus, Not my Monkey ( Boy does that apply to DC...))
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To: taildragger

“Republicans believe that the stars, moons, and planets are all aligning.........”

The rhino’s are drinking the same Kool-Aid as Pelosi.

Moonbats all of them.


33 posted on 08/29/2014 4:35:47 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: INVAR

I posted a decade ago that the real ‘RINOs’ are the conservatives. The Republican Party has moved so far to the left that they passed ‘moderate’ a long time ago. The GOPelites put up stronger fights against the conservatives (Tea Party faction) than they do against the Dems.

Recently, Mark Levin has been on a tear, railing against the GOP. The problem is, the only alternative he offers is an Article 5 Convention. That is NOT going to correct what is wrong with the GOP/Republican Party.

Conservatives, including the old Reagan Democrats faction — who party has moved so far left that it is the party of the radicals from the 1960s — need to realize their political parties of old are gone.


34 posted on 08/29/2014 5:48:37 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: SMGFan
Why Republicans Will Take the Senate

And promptly lose it again in 2016.

35 posted on 08/29/2014 5:50:00 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: EQAndyBuzz; Black Agnes; Pelham; CatherineofAragon; Twink

Evey single election cycle since 1980 I’ve heard the same reasoning and agreed

As a Mississippi native and Tennessee resident I’m no longer playing along

Its the only way to force change in our established ranks

And the Mississippi dem candidate is arguably a better choice anyhow....ideologically compared to Cochran the past 14 years of his record
Except for his caucus....I’d support him over Cochran without the acrimony

Lamar is basically unopposed here

McConnell could lose too

It may take this to force GOPe to embrace its base instead of its apparatchiks


36 posted on 08/29/2014 5:52:57 AM PDT by wardaddy (Ferguson MO...but i thought blacks went north to escape the racism of mean ol southerners)
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To: ScottinVA

I guess its all over then.

I’m finding that I’m concentrating more and more on things closer to home as time goes by.

Was a nice country while it lasted.


37 posted on 08/29/2014 6:06:32 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: wardaddy; EQAndyBuzz

This is where I am, as well.

If the Mississippi Senate race and what transpired there at the hands of the GOP didn’t wake up conservatives, I doubt anything will.

Rove said that the Tea Party will vote for whomever is nominated. Well, I’m not an abused wife, and I’m not going to act like one.

For some reason, there are still those who believe that we can continue to vote for liberal candidates as long as they have an R behind their names, and that this failed practice will someday lead to conservative leadership. It’s not going to happen. All that WILL occur is that we’ll elect a Republican who throws open the gates and gives amnesty to every illegal in the country, thereby sealing our fate.


38 posted on 08/29/2014 6:27:25 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.)))
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To: MrShoop

Soros hasn’t yet bought the Rasmussen polling firm during the time frame you reference. He may have bought it in late 2013, but iirc, the sale wasn’t made until early ‘14.

Incidentally, I noticed the change even before I found out Rasmussen had sold to Soros. I had been in the habit of visiting Rasmussen’s site daily. All of a sudden, Every Single Obama Poll he did was an outlier. Worse, Every Single Obama Poll was an average of 4 points higher on approval than any other poll. W’out knowing what had changed, I concluded Ras had gone over to the dark side, & ceased visiting his site.

It was about a mo later that I learned Soros had bought Rasmussen’s polling co. Since then, the pro-Obama slant has continued unabated. Here, you can see it for yourself; go to the following site, & compare Ras to the other pollsters for several wks. You will see Ras consistently ~4 or 5 points higher on Obama approval:

http://www.pollheadlines.com/

Incidentally, the above site is best for polling info overall. RCP has been bought by a Chinese co. But be that as it may, it averages in Ras’s artificially [and daily] Obama-approval polls, so the RCP average for POTUS approval is worthless. Check the pollhealines site for regular, unfiltered updates.


39 posted on 08/29/2014 9:25:22 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: pepsionice

Very interesting analysis. More & more it seems the GOPe strategy is to hack off the base. They figure we have nowhere else to go. As you say, that at a minimum depresses turnout. But what does the GOPe care. Win or lose, the DC Permanent Political Class wins & America loses...and they (evidently) like it that way.


40 posted on 08/29/2014 9:29:27 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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