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To: cotton1706
I know this is off topic but for anyone who thinks an Article 5 convention to amend the constitution is possible, please understand that the same Republican party who stole this state election would be involved in each of the 50 states manuvering behind the scenes. That same Republican party controlled the Presidency, the House of Representatives, the Senate and the Supreme Court for several years in the 2000's. What ever magical fixes you think could come from an Article 5 convention could have been passed back then if the Republican party was truly interested in doing so.

The Republican party does not care about small government, a strong economy, liberty, or any other thing it pretends to care about. It only cares about attaining (and retaining) power for power's sake alone.

8 posted on 08/28/2014 7:02:00 AM PDT by nitzy
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To: nitzy
It only cares about attaining (and retaining) power for power's sake alone.

That is precisely why we need TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!

10 posted on 08/28/2014 7:27:48 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: nitzy

First of all, despite all the nonsense to the contrary, an Article 5 convention is not some revolutionary thing that would completely overturn our government. It is a part of our government. Its job would be proposing of amendments to the Constitution. You correctly state that the Republicans controlled the House and Senate in the 2000’s and failed to do anything. (Control of the Presidency and Supreme Court are actually irrelevant to the amendment process). That, however, is the whole point of the Article 5 convention. The option of the Article 5 convention exists precisely because the Founders realized that there might come a time when amendments were needed that would not be proposed by Congress because such amendments were contrary to the interests of the members of Congress.

Just an example, suppose it is determined that term limits for Congressmen and Senators are needed (I’m not stating that I agree with this; this is just an example). Certainly very few Congressmen or Senators would even think about proposing such an amendment. Why would they? They would essentially be voting themselves out of a cushy job. That’s what an Article 5 convention is for. Assuming that the public came to the widespread belief that term limits were a good idea, the state legislatures would petition Congress for an Article 5 convention. Said convention would then meet and propose the necessary amendment. Any amendment proposed by the convention would then be sent to the states for ratification in the same manner as amendments proposed by Congress.

The Republican party on the national level would have very little to do with such a convention. This method gives states essentially all the power. Of course, you might argue that the Republican party in the states is just as bad, if not worse than the national party. I would not necessarily argue with that. The remedy, then, would be abandoning the party and starting a new one. If that could be done first on a grassroots, local level, and built up to become powerful in enough states, an Article 5 convention could be successful.


16 posted on 08/28/2014 8:33:26 AM PDT by stremba
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To: nitzy

Good points. In addition I suppose democrats will do nothing. So it would a RINOS and democrats deciding on what changes are made. Wouldn’t that be great (sarcasm)

Face it - we have almost no representation. Until we install conservatives in places of power all we have are Internet blogs.


18 posted on 08/28/2014 10:27:43 AM PDT by plain talk
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