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The Promiscuous Use of SWAT Teams Is a Bigger Problem Than Armored Vehicles on Our Streets
Townhall.com ^ | August 27, 2014 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 08/27/2014 8:07:52 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Paine in the Neck

“And the only way to fix it is to pierce the immunity shield that the judiciary has fabricated from whole cloth.”

That’s not the only way. A more effective deterrent to out-of-control SWAT cops is electing a pro-2nd Amendment, Constitutional sheriff in your county.

I have one in my county. During his tenure, the sheriff has run a number of Rambo cops, including state patrol, out of the county. He sent his investigators out and got two police chiefs in the city fired.

If you want your families and neighborhoods safe from SWAT Nazi goons, elect a constitutional sheriff in your county. If you can’t do that, you deserve every SWAT goon that invades your constitutional rights.


41 posted on 08/27/2014 5:27:34 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Dutchboy88

My point is that cops have a hell of a lot more power than I do. So their screw ups do a lot more damage. And the consequences should do a lot of damage to the cop that screws up. Do you think nothing should happen to cops that screw up and get the wrong house? Throwing flash bangs in. Screaming at the occupants. Throwing people to the ground. Standing on the back of necks. Do you think if people are treated like that for no reason, that cops should just be able to shrug their shoulders and say “Oh well, my bad”? i’d like to see them suffer serious consequences for that, to force cops to be extra careful to not make that mistake again. And if people are killed in a botched raid, the cops involved should go to prison (general population), just like any other criminal.


42 posted on 08/27/2014 5:33:25 PM PDT by christx30 (Freedom above all.)
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To: Dutchboy88
We want to read about that same high standard of suffering you endure that you expect from the cops.

You're kidding around?

43 posted on 08/27/2014 5:41:50 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: MileHi
"Next time, try lithium."

Well, according to your screen name, your the one who may need a bit of detox.

44 posted on 08/28/2014 9:30:25 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: christx30
"Do you think nothing should happen to cops that screw up and get the wrong house? Throwing flash bangs in. Screaming at the occupants. Throwing people to the ground. Standing on the back of necks. Do you think if people are treated like that for no reason, that cops should just be able to shrug their shoulders and say “Oh well, my bad”?"

Several things are apparent from your post. One, you believe this is happening 400 times a day, in every city, all over America. There is no reason to ask such silly questions unless you think this is common as drug deals. But, it is not common, at all. And, you hear about every one of them because you are dialed into this on the internet. There are a lot more serious problems out there, my FRiend. Second, what exactly do you mean "...for no reason." Do you think that the cops are just cruising over to Dunkin Donuts and say, "Hey, I have an idea...let's break this door down and scare the hell out of the occupants." When the errant entry happens there is an error in planning, execution, intel, whatever. Again, get a grip...the guys are trying to enforce the laws that make the neighborhood dangerous...the very neighborhood in which the errant entry is made. Third, the group of cop-haters around here spout this same nonsense...everyone is getting killed by rogue cops. It is so blatantly idiotic. You and the gang could not, would not, survive in your towns if you actually got what you wanted.

45 posted on 08/28/2014 9:38:33 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: APatientMan
"You're kidding around?"

No, sir, I am deadly serious. Perhaps if you and the cop-hating antinomianists around here would be more serious, the blather from these threads would stop. This is America, not some anarchical Mexican town where the strongmen think they are better "lawmen" than the cops. Don't like it? Leave.

46 posted on 08/28/2014 9:42:36 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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Well, according to your screen name, your the one who may need a bit of detox.

Aren't you just witty, and original too.

Responding to prattle from unthinking, angry, self-righteous posters wastes my time.

Irony is ironic, ain't it boy?

47 posted on 08/28/2014 12:02:31 PM PDT by MileHi
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To: MileHi
"Irony is ironic, ain't it boy?"

It "ain't" irony...its lame thinking by prancing prigs who believe they are better than those who put their lives on the line, but never get their fat asses off the sofa and go out to protect a community. They talk big, strut around waving their guns but are simple, small-minded cowards. Is that a bit clearer?

48 posted on 08/28/2014 12:26:11 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

I hear a lot of stories about cops getting the wrong house on these busts. Do you think there should be no accountability when that happens? That what I meant when I said “for no reason”. When the cops raid the wrong place, throw innocent people to the floor and destroy their property looking for illegal stuff that’s not there, that is inflicting pain and oppression on innocent people for no reason. And I wholeheartedly disagree that there are more important things to worry about than a vicious occupying army that could snap and murder you if someone puts 1452 Outland rd instead of 1425 Outland rd on a warrant. Especially if there are no consequences to the people that failed to check the address. Or trusted a drugged up informant. The people that made that mistake should have some serious consequences for that mistake. That’s the only way to restore trust in the police. You screw up like that, you lose your job in 48 hours. Assault charges come in 72 hours. You are arrested, tried, convicted, and are in general population within 6 months. You are treated like any other home invader. If an innocent homeowner shoots the home invader, he has the Castle Doctrine backing him up. He is never charged.
But that’s not the only problem I have with the police. There is always stories about cops using excessive force. And most of the time they are not charged. They ride a desk for a couple of weeks and are back out to do it again like nothing ever happened. That’s why I don’t trust the police. The bad guys keep their jobs and others protect the bad guys. No one is held accountable. There was a story on freerepublic today where a cop was busy on his car’a computer and ran someone over, killing him. The prosecutor declined to charge the cop in the man’s death because he was using his computer in the performance of his duties. Any non-cop would be in jail on a manslaughter charge. But the cop? Back in his car like it didn’t happen.


49 posted on 08/28/2014 1:51:36 PM PDT by christx30 (Freedom above all.)
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To: christx30

Okay, put up or shut up. You have heard, “... a lot of stories...”. I define “a lot” as perhaps 30 - 50 stories of this happening. After all, there are approx. 315 million folks in this country, so 40 instances is a drop in the bucket. That is something like .000000127.

So, go ahead, give us the 40 or so instances you have heard of this during the past month...dates, cities, situation, results. Remember...lots of stories.


50 posted on 08/28/2014 2:13:44 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: christx30

Waiting...


51 posted on 08/29/2014 9:43:50 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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