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Surf's Up - Will there be a GOP wave in the Senate—or a wipeout?
Politico ^ | 8/25/2014 | Larry Sabato

Posted on 08/26/2014 5:49:29 AM PDT by paul544

So where’s the wave? This is President Obama’s sixth-year-itch election. The map of states with contested Senate seats could hardly be better from the Republicans’ vantage point. And the breaks this year—strong candidates, avoidance of damaging gaffes, issues such as Obamacare and immigration that stir the party base—have mainly gone the GOP’s way, very unlike 2012

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To: paul544

The issue is money. The Dems have it, and the GOP (after kicking it’s base in the teeth a few times) doesn’t.

Fundraising for the GOP sucks. And a lot of the money they’ve raised has gone to propping up candidates like Thad Cochrane and Eric Cantor in primaries.

The Dems, otoh, rake in millions by drumming up a contrived impeachment scare narrative. Money that then gets spent on early advertising or supporting permanent state/local political field operations.

I am hopeful that the GOP has enough money held off for major ad blitz in late September and October. I also believe that Obamacare will come back as a major issue when people start getting hit with healthcare open season sticker shock.

GOTV scares me tho. See the thread yesterday about how the Dems have 40 field offices up and running in Arkansas to the GOP’s 10. THAT is going to hurt a lot, going to be difficult for paid advertising to overcome ...


21 posted on 08/26/2014 6:15:11 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: skeeter

In this era of Obama disasters, Democrats must be thankful for one thing: they have a weak and clueless opponent in the GOP.


22 posted on 08/26/2014 6:18:52 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: FreedomStar3028

That argument has lost its weight, FRiend.

Much of the GOP has clearly become enablers for the Obama regime. And yet we are supposed to support those that enable the naked emperor in order to fight the naked emperor.

Many are now saying its time to go galt, politically. You are arguing from the position of Wesley Mooch (I hope I didn’t mangle that name - LOL).


23 posted on 08/26/2014 6:22:16 AM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: wmfights
"We have to win control of the party."

************

I just don't think that's a worthwhile pursuit or an attainable goal. The reality is that the GOP is infested with deeply entrenched interests that will thwart all attempts to reform it. Trust me, I know people who have worked inside the party apparatus. Real internal reforms just aren't going to happen. Ever.

The GOP is a lost cause. An independent Tea Party is the only alternative IMHO.

24 posted on 08/26/2014 6:25:05 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: paul544

To add: control of the Senate DOES matter because of the advise and consent role on Judicial appointments.

Not sure of you were aware, but the first thing Harry Reid did after nuking the confirmation filibuster was to pack the second most important court in the country ( DC Circuit) with Obama appointees. Flipping it from majority Conservative to majority Liberal.

Look at how thats going to play with the panel ruling that the Obamacare Federal Exchange subsidies are illegal. It’s going to be appealed en banc before the entire court, where the newly minted Liberal majority will overrun it. Which will weaken it’s standing should the Supreme Court choose to take it up.

Preventing Obama from being able to do that to other appeals courts is, alone, worth having the Senate in GOP hands. To say nothing of the possibility that one or more of the Conservative Justices will leave before there’s another GOP President.


25 posted on 08/26/2014 6:26:07 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: paul544

I don’t think it’ll be a wave or a wipeout. I think the GOP takes the Senate but barely.


26 posted on 08/26/2014 6:28:56 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: paul544

Withhold votes from GOPe scum who won their primaries by illegally soliciting Democrat votes.

They deserve to LOSE.


27 posted on 08/26/2014 6:31:29 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FReerepublic: Bring a FRiend!)
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To: ilgipper
They selected far more candidates in 2012 than the anti-establishment core of the party, and those candidates were decimated...they lost FL, VA, WI, NM, CA, and others.

Cuccinelli was not an establishment candidate in VA. In fact, GOP-e largely let him twist in the wind. If GOP-e had given him meaningful help he would now be governor.

28 posted on 08/26/2014 6:34:56 AM PDT by KevinB (Barack Obama: Our first black, gay, Kenyan, Muslim president!)
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To: Starboard
The GOP is a lost cause. An independent Tea Party is the only alternative IMHO.

Won't happen.

The money, media coverage, the ability to get on the ballot are stacked in favor of a 2 party system. The only way I see this happening is for the Tea Party caucus in Congress to declare itself independent. The Rats would then have control of both Houses of Congress and would finish destroying the USA as a bastion of freedom and finish turning it into a socialist welfare state.

29 posted on 08/26/2014 6:38:15 AM PDT by wmfights
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To: tanknetter; paul544
...control of the Senate DOES matter because of the advise and consent role on Judicial appointments.

I bought this argument for a lot of years and voted for the lesser of two evils. What did I get?

I got John Roberts who sold me out and decided that I'm a piece of property that is owned by the govt and can be told that I must submit to govt control over my healthcare.

30 posted on 08/26/2014 6:41:48 AM PDT by wmfights
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To: paul544

I have my doubts about the Senate also. We will be lucky to take the Senate back by one seat.


31 posted on 08/26/2014 6:44:39 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: paul544

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5D07c0dJuQ

Wipeout!


32 posted on 08/26/2014 6:45:12 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: skeeter

Here are MY GOP themes for our little olé Precinct...Immigration/Amnesty, Common Core, & Health “care”... unlike some people we do not wait for the powers that be to TELL us what to do...or Say.


33 posted on 08/26/2014 6:50:21 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods)
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To: FreedomStar3028
Sorta new to FR, ain't ya?

Tell you what, I won't get over it. I won't vote for your liberal republicans.

The liberal republicans must be politically destroyed.

How about you and the liberal GOP go pound sand?

/johnny

34 posted on 08/26/2014 6:50:25 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: wmfights
" Where was he when the House Pubs did that? "

He was AWOL of course as you know. But he got a bad scare in the primary and Cochran may yet lose in ole Miss.

The issue is to keep the pressure on the old scoundrel publicly and noisily if possible.

35 posted on 08/26/2014 6:51:18 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: FreedomStar3028

Go peddle your “Republicans Uber Alles” tripe somewhere else.

I’m not buying it.

Lip service is what the Gutless Obsolete Pretenders do best. I’ve followed them for 25 years and saw damned little to write home about.


36 posted on 08/26/2014 6:52:12 AM PDT by EricT. (Everything not forbidden is compulsory.)
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To: goodnesswins
Whatever happened to tax relief?

The most potent issue next to immigration and the GOP doesn't even mention it anymore.

37 posted on 08/26/2014 6:52:36 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: tanknetter
What makes you think that a liberal republican controlled Senate would be any better?

/johnny

38 posted on 08/26/2014 6:52:39 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: paul544
Virginia -- Ed Gillespie (R) vs. Mark Warner (D)

RCP poll:  Warner +18.7

Ed's big issue now is corporate tax cuts.  Well good luck with that, mr. tone deaf bushbot.

39 posted on 08/26/2014 6:52:54 AM PDT by greedo
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To: wmfights

Roberts screwed up on Obamacare, for reasons unknown and about which we often speculate (like a tough-love forcing of the American public to experience real consequences for their electoral decisions), but is still to the Right of Sandra Day O’Connor. AND we got Justice Alito, who is superb.

But the point is that until Reid pulled the trigger on the Nuclear Option the Senate GOP, even tho in the minority, had done a good option of bottling up Obama judicial appointments to preserve Conservative majorities on lowe courts. People just don’t get the level of damage done by packing the DC Appeals Court with those three Liberal extremists.


40 posted on 08/26/2014 6:54:07 AM PDT by tanknetter
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