Posted on 08/22/2014 5:07:30 PM PDT by Kartographer
As people on both sides of the debate regarding open carry—the practice of carrying firearms in plain view—have been turning up the heat, more companies are being forced to take a side.
Gun-rights advocates see the practice as a way to normalize gun ownership and deter crime, while gun-control activists believe carrying guns in stores and restaurants is disruptive to the public and encourages violence.
Recently, Target, Starbucks and Chipotle have asked their patrons not to bring their guns. After petitions by gun-control groups such as Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, Kroger said it would uphold local and state laws in the 34 states it operates.
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Didn’t AZ pass it too?
Alaska for one.
I can remember years ago when the Mariel boat-lift had Florida being flooded with Cubans. Many of them were criminals out of the prisons.
At the time the local authorities encouraged people to carry due to a spike in crime. I can remember seeing news film of gas station attendants pumping gas with sidearms on their belts.
Bizarre.
When I was a kid, no one would have understood the question.
“Open Carry” was...everywhere.
What part of “...and bear...” is not clear?
“She who must be obeyed” is taking a 3 week car journey by herself from KY through TN, AL, GA, FL and back. All have reciprocity which greatly simplifies things because laws for having a gun in the car without a CCDW are all over the place.
So, she now has her CCDW, a spiffy new Sig P238 with 4 mags, a belly band holster from thewellarmedwoman.com (loves it - you women ought to check it out) and tomorrow we are both taking an intermediate self defense class given by a detective at the sheriff’s dept.
I feel a lot better about her driving through all of those states alone now.
bkmk
When I was growing up (in Mississippi), most pickups had gun racks. Most gun racks had guns. Most guns were loaded. What use is a gun without bullets (or shells)? Sort of like an aquarium without water and fish. What good is it?
What states allow conceal carry without a permit?
Alaska, Arkansas, Arizona, Vermont and Wyoming.
Arkansas is very recent, still being contested a bit, but quite clear.
Wyoming is for residents only, I recall. Doubt that it would stand up in court.
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We feel the same way. Why give a potential criminal an even break?
Most of the West is occupied by the Feds; national parks and forests. What about those areas?
And, in a tense situation, I’d prefer that I don’t get shot by the cops when they show up and don’t know who is who.
No disrespect to the police, but, like me, they want to go home at the end of the day.
I carry whenever I leave the house. It was a decision I made several years ago, to just do it. Every time. I’ll probably never need it. But if I ever do, I have sworn I don’t want that to be the day I decided to leave it at home.
But that said I’m not a big fan of the open carry movement. I think it’s pushy and I think it just frightens a lot of people that otherwise wouldn’t give guns a second thought, and would probably never vote to take guns away from anybody else. I know the open carry folks are just good ordinary people, but it’s just too easy for the enemy to use against us and make all of us look like nut-cases.
I have one for the dumb question department... are gunracks in pickups, on ATVs, or holsters on horses considered open carry... or is open carry strictly handgun territory?
It’s open carry on your person. Gun racks don’t count. :-).
Anymore I don’t think I’d show a rifle in a rack in the rear window of a pickup. It’s just advertising for thieves.
In fact here in WA I believe the law currently says that any weapon left in a vehicle must be out of sight. I would suppose that includes rifles in racks.
And to think when I was in high school in the 70s during hunting season many of the pickups in the student parking lot had rifles in their racks because they were hunting before and after school.
I think the ban on open carry in Texas dates to Reconstruction during the late 1860s and ‘70s, when there were many unreconstructed Rebs and outlaws, like John Wesley Hardin, riding the landscape. Back then you had to prove that you were a “traveler” to carry in Texas.
The law against open carry in California is fairly new, but you can still legally open carry a loaded weapon while occupying a campground.
/johnny
should also include whether the police will arrestyou for disorderly conduct if you open carry legally. b/c some places will even though that’s not legal for them to do.
There is some history there. Florida doesn’t allow open carry only since 1987, when it passed its concealed carry licensing law. So it is “collateral damage”.
Texas is an odd case because they had a law in 1872 that you could open carry, when “traveling”, but it got whittled down over many years to the point where it confused everybody.
“The rather “exhaustive” complete list of exceptions to the criminality of carrying a handgun are available in Chapter 46 of the Texas Penal Code. It is casually referred to as Texas “cord of wood” handgun law.
South Carolina has been trying to get rid of its law for some years, but there is one state senator in charge of the committee that keeps killing the bill. The arrogant SOB thinks he knows better that 47 other states and the rest of his state.
Hawaii’s law may allow open carry with a permit or license but I have not heard of even ONE being issued yet.
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