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Spain Robs the Pension System to Pay its Bills
Townhall.com ^ | August 22, 2014 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 08/22/2014 2:19:52 PM PDT by Kaslin

The "recovery" news in Spain keeps piling up. Via translation from El Economista, Government has already taken 37% of the total 'pensions piggy bank'. If extractions continue at the current rate, the fund would be exhausted in 4 years.

The Government of Mariano Rajoy has released 24.65 billion euros of the Social Security Reserve Fund in less than two years. Such amount represents nearly 37% of the total 66.815 billion fund accumulation. That figure marks the highest cumulative piggy bank draw-down in history, following its commissioning in 2000 and after eleven years in which successive governments did not need to dip into it.

The situation changed dramatically with the height of the crisis. The current government has broken into the social security bank twelve times since 2012. The total amount withdrawn exceeds 24.6 billion euros while 54.69 billion remains.

This implies "at the current depletion rate, in a period of four years or so, the fund would be exhausted".
Advice of the Day

I am sure glad no one sees a problem here. As we all know, problems vanish if you ignore them. It's mind over matter. I learned that from former US secretary of treasury, Tim Geithner.

And as long as you are ignoring some problems, why not ignore all problems?

For example, please ignore Spain's trade deficit unexpectedly rising as noted in Recovery Mirage in Spain Dissipates Into Ashes.

Instead, let's focus on the dramatic improvement of Spain's unemployment rate.



click on chart for sharper image

In a few years, at the current rate of progress, Spain's unemployment rate may be back to a mere 21% or so. Isn't that something to be proud of?

I sure would think so. But will there be anything left in the piggy bank?

What, Me Worry?




To all you naysayer pessimists who may be shocked by the above, please consider this simple question: If Social Security bankruptcy doesn't bother the US, why should it bother Spain or any other country?

Far be it from me, Mish the eternal optimist, to be any sort of worrywart, but your answer must take into account one additional question: Who controls the printing press in the US and who controls the press in Spain?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: govspending; mish; pensionreform; pensions; socialsecurity; spain
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1 posted on 08/22/2014 2:19:52 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I’m glad ourel SS accounts are safe and sound.


2 posted on 08/22/2014 2:22:47 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Kaslin

But, but, but leftwing socialism is our utopia!


3 posted on 08/22/2014 2:23:56 PM PDT by newfreep ("Evil succeeds when good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke)
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To: Kaslin

>> Government has already taken 37% of the total ‘pensions piggy bank’

Poor Spaniards; however I feel comfortable as I near retirement, ‘cause OUR pensions piggy bank (some call it Social Security) is CHOCK FULL of valuable, safe U.S. Treasury IOUs!

“Backed By The Full Faith And Credit Of The United States”


4 posted on 08/22/2014 2:24:56 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Kaslin

Witness the death throes of the Welfare State. First, you tax and spend. When you can’t raise taxes anymore on “the rich,” you borrow and spend. When you can’t borrow anymore, you start writing checks on different accounts and grabbing any source of money you can to keep the spending going. When you can’t pay pensions as a result, riots and civil war follow.


5 posted on 08/22/2014 2:26:17 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Wolfie

In the waning year of Bush43, Dems were making noises about taking IRA, 401(k), and 403(b) accounts.


6 posted on 08/22/2014 2:26:37 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Kaslin

How do you say “Lockbox” in español?


7 posted on 08/22/2014 2:27:40 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Nervous Tick

Argentina seized all private pensions and combined them with the government pension system to try and stay afloat, but it failed.

Now the Kirchner regime calls a US federal judge overseeing the repayment of their debt obligations an “imperialist”.


8 posted on 08/22/2014 2:28:22 PM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: Kaslin

Uncle Sugar will be raiding our own 401K’s and IRA’s as well. Just a matter of selling it to the masses and the ‘right’ people getting out just in time so they themselves don’t get burned.


9 posted on 08/22/2014 2:30:02 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Nextrush

Being responsible is hard work! It’s “bullying” to demand responsibility of individuals (or countries).


10 posted on 08/22/2014 2:30:35 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Kaslin

There they go - copying the US federal government again.


11 posted on 08/22/2014 2:31:29 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Democrats love poor blacks - that's why they keep them on the Plantation)
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To: Kaslin

How much of the money goes to EU banks for loans that the citizens had no say over? What would happen if Spain defaulted on those loans and went their own way? Not that the citizens would ever be allowed to vote on that.


12 posted on 08/22/2014 2:33:19 PM PDT by grania
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To: dfwgator

I believe “lockbox” translates to something like “estas jodido” en espanol.


13 posted on 08/22/2014 2:33:57 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Iron Munro

In the end our taxes will be raised and all the government benefits will be cut when the house of debt cards collapses in the United States.


14 posted on 08/22/2014 2:35:47 PM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: Kaslin

I say, “GOOD CALL.”

Now revise the pensions to something reasonable that
would have prevailed if “bargainers” were on opposite sides.
OK?


15 posted on 08/22/2014 2:37:52 PM PDT by noah (noah)
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To: Kaslin

When they get to losing 25000% of what was to be in savings they will be in the USA’s shoes.


16 posted on 08/22/2014 2:38:41 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Kaslin

But this could never happen here......NOT.


17 posted on 08/22/2014 2:55:01 PM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Kaslin

Zippys equality chant


18 posted on 08/22/2014 2:55:59 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Kaslin

This is the main problem with social security. The Gubmit holds all the money! And there ain’t a fllipin thing you can do about it. Even though its the money they took from you without your permission. You can’t stop them from taking your money and you stop them from spending it either. The perfect crime! He he


19 posted on 08/22/2014 2:58:02 PM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: Kaslin
I don't know how the Spanish do it, but I know our Social Security funds are safe and secure in Al Gore's Official Federal Government Lockbox.

I sure hope Spain has been as careful as we have been in assuring their retirement funds are in safe hands. It would be a shame if their pensioners get looted by their politicians. But at least we can take comfort knowing it won't happen here!

20 posted on 08/22/2014 2:58:44 PM PDT by Gritty (To remain free, a people need the spirit of liberty. Once lost, there's no easy roads back.-Mk Steyn)
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