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Death of a Teenager
Townhall.com ^ | August 20, 2014 | Donald Lambro

Posted on 08/20/2014 9:21:11 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 08/20/2014 9:21:11 AM PDT by Kaslin
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If a preliminary struggle ensued before the shooting, as was reported, Wilson knew he was outmatched physically. Still, Wilson had lots of non-lethal options to deal with the situation that he, apparently, did not pursue.

Adding this moron to my ignore list. Brown escalated this to justifiable deadly force when he sucker punched Wilson and went for his gun - exactly the way Trayvon escalated the situation when he did the same to Zimmerman.

2 posted on 08/20/2014 9:23:53 AM PDT by dirtboy
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A young man needlessly died a violent death when steps could have been taken to prevent that from happening.

Needlessly? Since when is self-defense needless?

3 posted on 08/20/2014 9:25:19 AM PDT by dirtboy
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Comment from Yahoo forum: From the evidence to date, it appears this suspect was most likely, and unfortunately, attacking the cop, who was injured, and shot to the arms and up to the head as the suspect (not victim) was approaching and failed to surrender. Text book use of deadly force when confronting a violent person on drugs. From a former cop and attorney. And if there was anything wrong, let the FBI investigation and the local grand jury investigation find it and prosecute it. Do people really believe this cop, or most cops, go around looking to shoot innocent people?

Cops go through psychological assessments, interviews, psychiatrist examinations, lie detector tests; they're pretty solid people. How about we start with this, this individual was stopped for a reason, then displayed aggressive behavior, and now we have a sad ending. Jumping to conclusions and responding with more violence only will bring more skepticism and more violence. The media makes these into race stories and causes so much hatred and anger in society and the city in which the use of force occurs. That is the really sad part. It is the media which perpetuates racism to get a story.

4 posted on 08/20/2014 9:29:28 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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A young man needlessly died a violent death when steps could have been taken to prevent that from happening.

The steps that could have been taken to prevent his death were by the "unarmed" 6'4", 300 pound "teenager" walking in the middle of the street.

Will it now be the duty of police to run from angry hoodlums?

5 posted on 08/20/2014 9:30:48 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Kaslin
In his news conference Monday, President Obama tried to address the anger, bitterness, grief and confusion that was felt especially throughout the black community, but no doubt throughout our country, too.

A young man needlessly died a violent death when steps could have been taken to prevent that from happening.

"As Americans, we've got to use this moment to seek out our shared humanity that's been laid bare by this moment," Obama said. "The potential of a young man and the sorrows of parents, the frustrations of a community, the ideals that we hold as one united American family."

Whatever one's politics, who can disagree with that?

 

I can! I can! Me... Me!


6 posted on 08/20/2014 9:30:49 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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Adding this moron to my ignore list.

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Dittoes. Townhall is usually a conservative site. But once in awhile they do post liberal pukeage.


7 posted on 08/20/2014 9:32:32 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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I like the “hoped to pursue higher education”. I have seen several reports that the reporters could not find and actual college he had applied to, and then someone reported that it was a trade school.

But the meme is now that he was going to college in a couple of weeks.


8 posted on 08/20/2014 9:32:39 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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Seems that in order to save the young man, the officer should have allowed himself to be pummeled, had his gun taken, and been shot by the young man. Of course, then the young man would later encounter another police officer, who probably also should have sacrificed himself, so as not to cause the “needless, violent death” of the young man.

UGGGH


9 posted on 08/20/2014 9:35:18 AM PDT by NEMDF
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Wilson had lots of non-lethal options to deal with the situation
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of course he did...

Remind me again what they were ???


10 posted on 08/20/2014 9:36:52 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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These reports seem to omit when the BOLO came out with the description of the robber of the convenience store. From what I understand at some point in the melee Wilson got a descriptiong of the robber.


11 posted on 08/20/2014 9:36:53 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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The way this is looking, the officer shot to warn, he kept coming, then shot to wound, he kept coming, then when there was no other choice, killed him. I believe that this is considerably beyond what was expected of him, and “by the book”, not the recommended course of action. The recommended course of action, was to drop him immediately.


12 posted on 08/20/2014 9:39:56 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Kaslin

Who is this Lambro and why does Town Hall have someone so slow and uninformed writing for them?


13 posted on 08/20/2014 9:41:15 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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What we do know is that Michael Brown was unarmed

But not incapable of battery, or inflicting great harm - as the blown-out eye socket of the officer indicates

and the police officer had a revolver

From what I have seen reported, it was a semi-automatic pistol, not a revolver.

and no doubt other firearms in a police car that was equipped with a phone to call in reinforcements to bring in a suspect for questioning.

Yes, let's call while in the process of defending from an attack from outside the vehicle, while I'm still in the vehicle.

Instead, Brown's body was pumped full of bullet holes, including two through his brain.

Pumped full? No bias there.

Brown was a big, hefty guy. about 6 feet, four and well over 200 pounds.

No, he was 6' 4" and just under 300 lbs (in the 290s).

Officer Darren Wilson, a 28-year-old, six year police veteran, was described as "tall and slim."

I've seen reports putting him under 200 lbs, so there was approximately a 100 lb difference between the two.

If a preliminary struggle ensued before the shooting, as was reported, Wilson knew he was outmatched physically.

Yes, which is why he was armed.

Still, Wilson had lots of non-lethal options to deal with the situation that he, apparently, did not pursue.

According to many witnesses, after the original assault/battery (broken eye socket) while in the vehicle, Officer Wilson attempted an arrest, within seconds, the now-deceased Michael Brown rushed him. How far away was back-up? How long until support arrived? This was someone who had just assaulted an officer, was on foot, and rushed an officer in a second attempted attack. The officer was attempting an arrest, and was rushed by someone who had just shown a great lack of care for right and wrong, a willingness to assault a cop, and a potential to cause further grave injury or death.

Yeah, Officer Wilson should have just stood there and made nice.

14 posted on 08/20/2014 9:41:24 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

non lethal options:

friended him on Facebook


15 posted on 08/20/2014 9:42:17 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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It’s 296lbs, not 200 (”tall and slim” my Aunt Fanny!) and we don’t yet know what other drugs were in his system because testing for them takes longer than for marijuana. Also, did Sergeant Wilson actually have a “revolver” and if so, isn’t he just about the last policeman in this country to carry one? And exactly what “non-lethal” options did Sergeant Wilson have at his disposal, Donald?


17 posted on 08/20/2014 9:45:04 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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Still, Wilson had lots of non-lethal options to deal with the situation that he, apparently, did not pursue.

Oh, of course.

Thanks for the commentary, Donald "Smug ***hole" Lambro.

Do you have any opinions of how Peyton Manning could have prepared better for the Superbowl?

18 posted on 08/20/2014 9:45:53 AM PDT by wideawake
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But the death of Michael Brown, who just graduated from high school and hoped to pursue higher education, has seized the nation's attention like no other.

A more perceptive writer might have thought to wonder how that came to be.

19 posted on 08/20/2014 9:46:40 AM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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shooting death of an unarmed black teenager in a little town in Missouri.

I swear every time I read or hear that this thug was "unarmed" I get another gray hair!!

He WAS armed - with his fists, feet and imposing size. How was it he injured the police officer if he were "unarmed."?

20 posted on 08/20/2014 9:46:54 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (Tired? There's a napp for that!!)
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