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The Ferguson Fix Is In
FrontPage Mag ^ | 08/20/2014 | Matthew Vadum

Posted on 08/20/2014 7:33:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SMARTY
“If the middle class (of whatever color) leaves Ferguson the jobs will disappear too. THEN there will be even more problems.

Detroit is the shining example for THAT scenario. Only, in Detroit, it took place over decades... it was inevitable, but it took a while.
In places like Ferguson, the process is accelerated by the MSM, the Liberals and a President who doesn’t give a s%$# about the residents (no matter WHO they are) just so long as HIS agenda goes forward.
We have one stupid and selfish SOB in the WH and it will take forever to recover from the damage he does, almost on an hourly basis.

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WE also have a duly elected Congress in D.C. and in every state and they support the Democrat party, elected TWICE into office.
We have to look in the mirror for SOME of the blame, don't you think?

21 posted on 08/20/2014 8:05:47 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: ladyjane
"Why are we hearing nothing from law enforcement organizations?"

How many of them are controlled by the Democrats directly or through the money they and the police departments receive from the Federal government?

22 posted on 08/20/2014 8:06:19 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: SeekAndFind

What a mess ! With all the finger pointing away from where it started ...The “Bully Pulpit”

A democrat (in name only) party governor (Mo Governor Jay Nixon) goose steps along with the party’s agenda. Conflict and division designed to perpeptuate racial division to make impeachment an imposibility. Which now demands a hanging of a police officer who defended himself attacked by a huge black thug by calling for, not justice, but “vigorous prosecution”.

That governor over rides local jurisdictions places in command his commander of his state police who decides making peace is done by marching with black terrorists and flashing gang signs.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3194333/posts
Which naturally turns in chaos. Neighborhood businesses destroyed, people shot.

And once again black callers to conservative talk shows
Which have black callers in complete denial never told “You can’t handle the truth...


23 posted on 08/20/2014 8:06:57 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What a mess ! With all the finger pointing away from where it started ...The “Bully Pulpit”

A democrat (in name only) party governor (Mo Governor Jay Nixon) goose steps along with the party’s agenda. Conflict and division designed to perpeptuate racial division to make impeachment an imposibility. Which now demands a hanging of a police officer who defended himself attacked by a huge black thug by calling for, not justice, but “vigorous prosecution”.

That governor over rides local jurisdictions places in command his commander of his state police who decides making peace is done by marching with black terrorists and flashing gang signs.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3194333/posts
Which naturally turns in chaos. Neighborhood businesses destroyed, people shot.

And once again black callers to conservative talk shows
Which have black callers in complete denial never told “You can’t handle the truth...


24 posted on 08/20/2014 8:06:58 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rather, the robbery video is going to be the final word.


25 posted on 08/20/2014 8:08:15 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Linda Frances

“What kind of sick mind do you have to have to want chaos?”

Obama is a chaos manager. Like the hyena, he creates creates/uses it to further his agenda. Sending Holder may only increase the violence given the presence of so many Communist agitators there. Either peace or riots will help Obama pursue his agenda....

Start of a rough ride.

I say we all support Officer Wilson.... looks like he is being set up to lay on the sacrificial socialist altar. I for one will not have it.


26 posted on 08/20/2014 8:09:26 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formally known as Ursus Arctos Horribilis....,I')
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To: cloudmountain

Not ME-I never voted for the idiot “O”


27 posted on 08/20/2014 8:09:27 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Linda Frances

I agree with seekandfind, the state police, the FBI, the just’us department, the national guard, and the governor have taken their sides on the matter, why should a local cop, with a family, become the pawns in this charade.

After the war dance is done, more violence will erupt and the mob will be gunning for a cop...any cop. So, some innocent cop will get killed or injured for what another cop has (perceived) done.

Wouldn’t bother me if the local cops left, along with all of the businesses. Like ISIS, the mob has taken the town over. Let the governor fix it, he’s fueling the flames.


28 posted on 08/20/2014 8:09:45 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: centurion316
"This guy nails it. Everything in Ferguson is being staged by the White House for the purpose of getting Blacks to the polls in November. Without their reliable votes, the Democrats are going to experience a monumental ass whooping and they know it. This is nothing more than a plan to mitigate that disaster. See what you can do when you control the government, have a compliant press corps, and are completely unbound by constraints of law, morality, and Constitutional constraint."

And killing people for the radical cause has never been a problem anywhere in the world and the American Left will be happy to foment riots and anarchy and however many deaths it takes to retain power and completely "remake" America.

29 posted on 08/20/2014 8:11:49 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: FrankR

“Let the governor fix it, he’s fueling the flames.”

Agreed!


30 posted on 08/20/2014 8:12:28 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Like all of these events Ferguson will quite down now. Need access by the postal service to deliver the welfare checks.


31 posted on 08/20/2014 8:17:27 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: SMARTY
Not ME-I never voted for the idiot “O”

Neither did I.
SOMEone did.

32 posted on 08/20/2014 8:26:54 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: The Great RJ

They don’t care. They know the money will come flowing in from government. It has already started. I read some agency or other is putting together the first pile of money to repair the place. It only encourages the lawless to be even more lawless.


33 posted on 08/20/2014 8:43:05 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Linda Frances
What kind of sick mind do you have to have to want chaos?

The same sick minds that want belligerent drunks in charge of "ethics" ...

34 posted on 08/20/2014 8:44:24 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: SeekAndFind
There are three choices for law enforcement when encountering a situation.

1. Ignore the event by looking the other way.

2. Call for backup and wait until they arrive.

3. Confront the subject.

We are rapidly moving to choice #2. In this case, LEOs take down the details and file a report.

With #2 the result is that the LEO and the subject are less likely to be harmed but the victim is usually hurt or killed.
With #3 the victim is less likely to be injured but the LEO and subject are more likely to be injured or killed.

35 posted on 08/20/2014 8:48:37 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: SeekAndFind

Holder who wouldn’t arrest the new black panthers with clubs at a voting site yeah it’s going to be a fair deal.
No racism there.


36 posted on 08/20/2014 8:59:08 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: SeekAndFind

An Open Letter to Captain Ronald S. Johnson

Chief Ed Delmore |

I have to call you out.

I don’t care what the media says. I expect them to get it wrong and they often do. But I expect you as a veteran law enforcement commander—talking about law enforcement—to get it right.

Unfortunately, you blew it. After days of rioting and looting, last Thursday you were given command of all law enforcement operations in Ferguson by Governor Jay Nixon. St. Louis County PD was out, you were in. You played to the cameras, walked with the protestors and promised a kinder, gentler response. You were a media darling. And Thursday night things were better, much better.

But Friday, under significant pressure to do so, the Ferguson Police released the name of the officer involved in the shooting of Michael Brown. At the same time the Ferguson Police Chief released a video showing Brown committing a strong-arm robbery just 10 minutes before he was confronted by Officer Darren Wilson.

Many don’t like the timing of the release of the video. I don’t like that timing either. It should have been released sooner. It should have been released the moment FPD realized that Brown was the suspect.

Captain Johnson, your words during the day on Friday helped to fuel the anger that was still churning just below the surface. St. Louis County Police were told to remain uninvolved and that night the rioting and looting began again. For much too long it went on mostly unchecked. Retired St. Louis County Police Chief Tim Fitch tweeted that your “hug-a-looter” policy had failed.

Boy did it.

And your words contributed to what happened Friday night and on into the wee hours of Saturday. According to the St. Louis Post Dispatch, you said the following regarding the release of the video: “There was no need to release it,” Johnson said calling the reported theft and the killing entirely different events.

Well Captain, this veteran police officer feels the need to respond. What you said is, in common police vernacular—bullshit. The fact that Brown knew he had just committed a robbery before he was stopped by Officer Wilson speaks to Brown’s mindset. And Captain, the mindset of a person being stopped by a police officer means everything, and you know it.

Let’s consider a few examples:
On February 15, 1978 Pensacola Police Officer David Lee conducted a vehicle check. He didn’t know what the sole occupant of the vehicle had recently done, but the occupant did. Who was he? Serial killer Ted Bundy. Bundy attempted to disarm Lee. Lee was able to retain his firearm and eventually took Bundy into custody.

On April 19, 1995 Oklahoma State Trooper Charlie Hangar stopped a vehicle for minor traffic violations. He didn’t know that 90 minutes earlier the traffic violator, Timothy McVeigh, killed 168 people with a truck bomb at the Murrah Federal Building. But McVeigh sure knew it, didn’t he? Fortunately, given his training and experience Hangar was able to take McVeigh into custody for carrying a concealed firearm. It was days later before it was determined that McVeigh was responsible for the bombing.

On May 31, 2003 then-rookie North Carolina police officer, Jeff Postell, arrested a man digging in a trash bin on a grocery store parking lot—an infraction that would rise to about the level of jaywalking. Postell didn’t know that he had just captured Eric Rudolph, the man whom years earlier had killed and injured numerous people with bombs and was on the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted list.

So now, let’s consider Ferguson Officer Darren Wilson’s stop of Michael Brown. Apparently Wilson didn’t know that Brown had just committed a strong-arm robbery. But Brown did! And that Captain, is huge.

Allegedly, Brown pushed Wilson and attempted to take Wilson’s gun. We’re also being told that Officer Wilson has facial injuries suffered during the attempt by Brown to disarm him. Let’s assume for a moment those alleged acts by Brown actually occurred. Would Brown have responded violently to an officer confronting him about jaywalking? Maybe, but probably not.

Is it more likely that he would attack an officer believing that he was about to be taken into custody for a felony strong-arm robbery? Absolutely.

Officer Wilson survived the encounter with Brown as did Lee, Hangar, and Postell. Michael Brown didn’t survive and it’s too soon to say if Officer Wilson’s use of deadly force was justified and legal. You and I both know that not all officers survive such confrontations. Officers die in incidents like this Captain Johnson, including a couple that I remember from your own organization:

On April 15, 1985 Missouri Trooper Jimmie Linegar was shot and killed by a white supremacist he and his partner stopped at a checkpoint; neither Trooper Linegar nor his partner were aware that the man they had stopped had just been indicted by a federal grand jury for involvement in a neo-Nazi group accused of murder. The suspect immediately exited the vehicle and opened fire on him with an automatic weapon.

Just a month before, Missouri Trooper James M. Froemsdorf was shot and killed—with his own gun—after making a traffic stop. When the Trooper made that stop he didn’t know that the driver was wanted on four warrants out of Texas—But again the suspect knew it.

So Captain Johnson, I guess the mindset and recently committed crimes of the suspects that murdered those Missouri Troopers didn’t mean anything. The stops by the Troopers, as you have said, are entirely different events right?

Bullshit.

http://m.lawofficer.com/article/lifeline-training/open-letter-captain-ronald-s-j


37 posted on 08/20/2014 8:59:11 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: cloudmountain

This story is fizzling out. The facts are overwhelmingly in favor of the officer.


38 posted on 08/20/2014 9:00:55 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: cloudmountain

Maybe here is some “share of the blame” for those voting in Democrats, especially Obummer in TWICE...but paraphrasing Stalin, take a good look at who/what is counting/corrupting the votes.


39 posted on 08/20/2014 9:10:46 AM PDT by kiltie65
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To: SeekAndFind

The Department of “Just Us” is what Holder and Obama have made it.


40 posted on 08/20/2014 9:37:23 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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