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Townhall.com ^ | August 18, 2014 | Rich Galen

Posted on 08/18/2014 4:18:22 AM PDT by Kaslin

Let us stipulate that none of us know what happened between Ferguson, Missouri police officer Darren Wilson and Michael Brown. We can also stipulate that the members of the Ferguson Police Department might need some additional training.

The Ferguson PD has 53 officers to Serve and Protect about 20,000 residence. That seemed high to me, but a quick glance at other places shows that might be about right.

Washington, DC has 4,000 uniformed cops (not counting about 2.3 million other federal agency police officers) for 600,000. If that ratio were transferred to Ferguson it would have a uniformed force of about 133 cops.

On the other end of the scale, greater York, Pennsylvania (pop. 108,000) has 44 uniformed officers. Transmogrifying that to Ferguson would leave the city with only about 16 cops on the street.

In addition to the continuing, and increasingly troubling, issue of racial issues in the United States, the Ferguson situation has given rise to what became known over the weekend as the "militarization" of America's police departments.

Whether or not Ferguson, or any other city police department needs enough military equipment to allow Captain American III to be filmed there raises serious questions.

First among them is: What is the purpose of a police department?

My off-the-cuff answer is: We want our cops to keep us safe in our homes, schools, and places of business. We want them to make sure cars are driven in a safe manner so they never run over out kids at stop signs, or bump into one another too often.. And, we want them to … that's pretty much it.

In fact, the official document describing the nature and duties of the police force in Baton Rouge, La begins with

"Work normally consists of checking of parking meters for violations, routine patrol, preliminary investigation and traffic regulation… of checking of parking meters for violations, routine patrol ?

Most police departments do not need armored, anti-IED personnel carriers for the routine checking of parking meters, unless the parking meters are in Fallujah.

A great deal of equipment that has been made available to local PDs is military surplus. We have produce many, many armored, anti-IED personnel carriers for use in Iraq and Afghanistan that are no longer needed there.

They are probably not needed in Ferguson either but it's tough to turn down equipment when it is offered for free.

It would be useful to know (a) what the inventory of military equipment is in the Ferguson, PD and (b) what type of training was offered or completed in the utilization of that equipment.

As a former member of the City Council of Marietta, Ohio 45750 we were always wary of free stuff offered by the state government in Columbus. It wasn't so much what we were getting. Our concern was the cost of maintenance, storage, the aforementioned training and - dare we mention - replacement, if and when the stuff wore out.

When the Congress comes back from its five week tour of Martha's Vineyard and places West and South it might be useful to find out not just what military equipment has been parked with local PDs like Ferguson, but also what level of militarization has been attached to federal agencies.

How many federal employees have, as their principal responsibility, armed protection of people or property? What types of military equipment - by federal agency - have been assigned.

How many, in addition, contractors have that same responsibility and what type of military-type gear are we paying for among that group?

Here's a good starting point: What, if anything, is in the military inventory of the Department of Education? How many people in that Department are acting in police, personal security, intelligence and/or counter-terrorism roles - both full-time federal employees and contractors?

I counted 28 different federal police agencies in the District of Columbia ranging from the FBI and Capitol Police to the Smithsonian Institution Office of Protection Services.

I am not kidding about the Smithsonian cops. There are 850 of them. Eight Hundred and Fifty armed men and women protecting John Glenn's Freedom 7 space capsule at the Air & Space Museum and little Bao Bao, the panda cub at the National Zoo.

Maybe we should start there and see how much military equipment the Smithsonian cops have.

If you wonder how we got to a national debt of $17.7 trillion, this may be part of the answer.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: feruson; police

1 posted on 08/18/2014 4:18:23 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

About those numbers..take the 53 officers..assume 5 senior commanders...then assume another 10 officers are either on vacation, medical leave, or court ( likely more)..that’s 38 left..so..on a 3 shift basis..that’s about 12-13 on duty at any one time...figure about 3-4 are stationed at HQ, jail..thus..at any one time..there are likely about 10 officers out on patrol...for a city of 20,000. That’s how you measure, and assess..manpower


3 posted on 08/18/2014 4:36:15 AM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: ken5050

Keep in mind these are not highly paid officers.

The average salary for a LEO in this area is about 43 thousand.

The best and the brightest are not applying here.


4 posted on 08/18/2014 5:25:53 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: maine yankee

Living costs..especially housing.are also commensurate...a $100k home there is the equivalent of a $400k home in the NY metro suburbs..


5 posted on 08/18/2014 5:27:16 AM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: Kaslin
to Serve and Protect about 20,000 residence.

That would be residents, for those of you speaking English.

6 posted on 08/18/2014 6:00:26 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: F15Eagle
York races chart
  • White alone - 18,786 (43.0%)
  • Hispanic - 11,977 (27.4%)
  • Black alone - 9,981 (22.9%)
  • Two or more races - 2,107 (4.8%)
  • Asian alone - 665 (1.5%)
  • Other race alone - 123 (0.3%)
  • American Indian alone - 38 (0.09%)

7 posted on 08/18/2014 12:05:02 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: F15Eagle
Ferguson races chart
  • Black alone - 13,753 (64.9%)
  • White alone - 6,494 (30.6%)
  • Two or more races - 437 (2.1%)
  • Asian alone - 263 (1.2%)
  • Hispanic - 156 (0.7%)
  • American Indian alone - 34 (0.2%)
  • Other race alone - 45 (0.2%)
  • Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone - 23 (0.1%)

8 posted on 08/18/2014 12:07:22 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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