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In Another Rebel Setback, Ukraine Says Army Controls Center of Luhansk
NYTIMES ^ | 08/17/2014 | ANDREW E. KRAMER

Posted on 08/17/2014 4:07:01 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans

Edited on 08/17/2014 4:33:06 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

DONETSK, Ukraine — The Ukrainian military on Sunday moved into the heart of the separatist hub of Luhansk for the first time, officials said, chipping at one of the cornerstones of the pro-Russian rebels’ disintegrating virtual state.

Ukrainian officials said army units had raised the national flag over a police station in central Luhansk, the eastern city that, along with Donetsk, has been a center of rebel activity and an important destination for Russian fighters and aid. Other parts of Luhansk, however, were still said to be under rebel control.

The claim could not be independently confirmed, though a photograph of the flag and police station was circulating on social media, and the report was consistent with the progress of fighting there going into the weekend.

Along with increased Ukrainian pressure on rebel positions in Donetsk, the army’s move into Luhansk focused attention on the profound reversal of the separatists’ fortunes since they declared independence in April. Interviews across eastern Ukraine portray a rapid breakdown in discipline in the rebel ranks. Many fighters have abandoned their uniforms in favor of civilian clothes, and three senior leaders have left the war zone in recent days.

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"The army has tightened its siege on Donetsk in recent weeks, and inside, a breakdown in discipline among the hard-pressed rebel fighters had locals on edge. Residents said rebel fighters had taken to carousing drunkenly at night and wearing civilian clothes at checkpoints, a change of clothes that would allow them, at a moment’s notice, to throw down their weapons and blend in with the population.


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1 posted on 08/17/2014 4:07:01 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

why does the MSM keep calling them “rebels”, when they should be calling them “russian insurgents”?


2 posted on 08/17/2014 4:08:33 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

The question is where all the new “Rebel” (Russian) armor and men went?


3 posted on 08/17/2014 4:08:59 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: JohnBrowdie

I’ve been asking that question for a while.

I guess it is like rioters and looters being called “demonstrators” in Ferguson


4 posted on 08/17/2014 4:09:43 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Ukes nuke Russian pukes, again!


5 posted on 08/17/2014 4:18:34 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Mercenaries is more appropriate. They were recruited and hired by the Russians for their attempt to destabilize eastern Ukraine.


6 posted on 08/17/2014 4:50:21 PM PDT by meatloaf
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Did You Know?

The Current FReepathon Pays For The Current Quarter's Expenses?

Now That You Do, Donate And Keep FR Running


7 posted on 08/17/2014 4:57:05 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Let’s not overplay it, that’s hardly the “center of Luhansk”, it’s not even across the Luhan river. But it is still an important step.

I don’t think people should underestimate Russia here. The Ukranian army still has a VERY tough fight on their hands, and there WILL be setbacks. Perhaps serious ones - time will tell.


8 posted on 08/17/2014 5:39:58 PM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: meatloaf

Yep. And yet some folks see them as freedom fighters.

Wonder what they would have termed it if the Ukrainians had hired mercs to go in and instigate unrest in Russia.


9 posted on 08/17/2014 6:09:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: OldGuard1

I do think it’s good advice to note dismiss Russian adventurism. It could come back full force. Pupin’ has a lot riding on this. We’ll see how popular he is if the Ukraine asserts it’s authority and things settle down.


10 posted on 08/17/2014 6:11:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Russian terrorists is more appropriate.


11 posted on 08/17/2014 6:28:47 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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