Posted on 08/16/2014 9:40:29 AM PDT by BenLurkin
A man has died after 35 people - including children - were found in a shipping container at Tilbury Docks.
The survivors - believed to be from the Indian subcontinent and suffering from severe dehydration and hypothermia - are being treated at nearby hospitals.
They were discovered after a freighter arrived from Zeebrugge, Belgium at about 06:00 BST and was being unloaded.
Essex Police has launched a homicide investigation and officers are being assisted by their Belgian counterparts.
Police Supt Trevor Roe said staff at the docks were alerted to the container by "screaming and banging" from inside
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...
Oh, I thought you were talking about the title of the post “Tilbury Docks: Man dies after 35 found in container”. In made me scratch my head at first. Pardon me and carry on.
You’re mistaken. I was replying to the poster about the book, Camp of the Saints, which was about race.
The article says the people found in the container were from the Indian subcontinent but doesn’t elaborate from where in the Indian subcontinent exactly.
FWIW and just for the sake of conversation; India is a very, very large country and while we tend to think of Indians (as in those from India) as being of one single race and ethnicity, there are many races and mixtures of races and ethnicities that make up the population of India.
There are those who are descendents of Africans and perhaps the Australian continent especially in the south (and they look a lot like Aboriginal Australians with very broad noses and thick brows, very dark skin and wavy hair) and those in the south who are more closely related to Indonesians and look more like Indonesian, and then there are those who are more Mogililoid or “Asian” such as those in the north along the Tibetan boarder (who look much more Asian or ethically Tibetan/Chinese) and then there are those in the northwest and central areas of India who are often referred to as the “Nordics or the Indo-Aryans” who share a common ethnicity with the Persians and Iranians and who are classified as being Indo-European and part of the greater Caucasian race.
I find it rather ironic that when Hitler and the Nazis and their later day followers in the white supremacist movement, extol the supremacy and purity (e.g. the whiteness) of the Aryan race, they probably are not including the original Aryans who were not from Northern Europe but from Persia (modern day Iran) and northwest India. The very word “Aryan” comes from the Sanskrit word ārya, which is the self-designation used by the Vedic Indic people who migrated into the Indian subcontinent about 1500 BC.
I work with a woman who is originally from India. She told me that when she has to answer a census or fill out one of those EEOC forms when applying for a job, when she is asked to identify her “race” she usually answers “Asian” as that’s the PC thing to answer for most Indian Americans now days, but she also told me she would be just as comfortable answering Caucasian in that she identifies more with Europeans and European culture than she does with Asians and in her family tree there is a lot of English ancestry. If you met her, you would not mistake her for not being of “Indian” ancestry but you wouldn’t look at her and consider her as being Black or Asian either. And FWIW, she came from a very wealthy, “high caste” family in India, a very educated and successful family and she speaks and writes better English than many of the people I work with who grew up in Central PA. And she is very assimilated in the American culture including her manner of dress and of being more a typical suburban “soccer mom” than an “Indian”. Just saying….
It would be great if people stopped identifying as a race. Period.
The French built a huge holding camp at Sangatti, quite close to the Channel tunnel. Nudge nudge and wink wink; persons utterly fed up with confinement, get themselves on lorries (trucks) and the conveyances to England via, the tunnel. Now there is controversy as another great holding camp may be built at Calais. It is the nearest land point to England. England filled to the gills now, kind as my own people can be, it is a problem.
In Canada, the lowest crime rate amongst immigrants is Austrian, German and Indian. What a mix! (laughs). I have found locally, an almost incredible desire to fit in and be polite to all, by people from India.
I am aware of the long occupation by Britain over India..... that is another story.
Your post #23.
No problem Stevio, Please consider yourself duly pardoned, I am as, as the British comedically like to do, Carrying On
When I go to Cebu city, I sometimes pass the container port.
They have massive cranes that load and unload the ships, but there is a large area of containers stacked on top of each other. not dozens, but hundreds of them.
How could anyone put themselves in one, not knowing where they were going, or when it would be opened.
Sikhs from Afghanistan.
Thanks, and as a side note, I went to the wiki on Camp of the Saints. Very prophetic.
Amazing, isn’t it, how many Europeans have not heard of that book?
And yet it is the future that is playing itself out as we speak.
There's about 1.3 billion of her and her relatives.
If, say, just 10% of her kin make it to the U.S., they will be the majority population.
Do you think Anglo-Saxon Protestant egalitarian culture will be the dominant one after such an event?
And if you say, Oh Don't Worry, that won't happen, the question is...why not? Ten percent of the population leaving India would be unnoticed except as a relief...it would be those almost at the bottom of that society who would leave. Why would people at the top give up on it?
When the West was about 10% Mexican, 30 years ago, Mexican "culture" consisted of lots of restaurants. Corruption, Intimidation, Violence and institutionalized thuggery was around, but not considered normal, as it is in Mexican society.
Now we have entire cities in California run by them where all these things are the New Normal. Bell, CA is an example. State senators on Federal charges for gun running, bribery, extortion are routine (Leland Yee, Ron Calderon, Rod Wright).
Assimilation happens when the assimilants are a small minority. When they become the majority, it is the existing culture and populace that submits to the change.
That's what happens when we listen to Happy Talk like yours about how wonderful the Brahmin next door is.
Lorry (truck) drivers McLaughlin and Murphy both aged 34 years old were charged . This in the death of a Sikh man in the container. They were arraigned at Chelmsford, Essex and will appear in November at Basildon, Essex. Both from Londonderry, Northern Ireland.
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