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My guess is NATO intel had a role in alerting the Ukrainians to Russian troop movements.
1 posted on 08/15/2014 9:11:50 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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Oh My —


2 posted on 08/15/2014 9:13:33 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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I think Russia will eventually win in this, but Ukraine will hurt them in the process it appears.


4 posted on 08/15/2014 9:16:28 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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Now we’ll see if the Russians use this event as an excuse for action similar to what they did Georgia back in ‘08.


9 posted on 08/15/2014 9:21:42 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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And in other news the boy president shot a round of 96 today.


10 posted on 08/15/2014 9:22:38 AM PDT by KevinB (Barack Obama: Our first black, gay, Kenyan, Muslim president!)
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“With respect to Mr. Romney’s assertion that Russia’s our No. 1 geopolitical foe, the truth of the matter is that, you know, America’s got a whole lot of challenges. Russia is a regional power that is threatening some of its immediate neighbors—not out of strength but out of weakness.” — President Obama, March, 2014

http://www.newsweek.com/obama-tried-paint-russia-acting-out-weakness-russia-no-paper-tiger-238420


12 posted on 08/15/2014 9:23:28 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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If somebody destroyed Russian armor then I can’t help but believe it must have been someone with support from the West. So, regading this being “not good”, I concur.


13 posted on 08/15/2014 9:24:44 AM PDT by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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Real life “Russian FTX Field Exercise” - nothing to see here...


17 posted on 08/15/2014 9:38:56 AM PDT by BCW (ARMIS EXPOSCERE PACEM)
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Poroshenko is claiming this, but there is no confirmation, either from Russia, or the rebels.

If you have been following these events, you’ll know that Poroshenko HAS to say this, because it made the major media. That has been the MO all along, whether it is true or not.

There is heavy fighting along the road to Lugansk, as Kiev is trying to cut it, to prevent aid for the city, and a key village has changed hands a couple of times in the last two days.


18 posted on 08/15/2014 9:40:30 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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OUTSTANDING!!! Get ‘em, Ukraine. Stop Russian imperialism.


19 posted on 08/15/2014 9:43:03 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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Also worth knowing:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3193158/posts

22 posted on 08/15/2014 9:48:01 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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Per the UK Telegraph’s Oliphant, with the aid convoy, this was setup on the Russian side of the border at Izvarino/Donetsk, Russia.

Twitter says it is the support Radar for an S-300/400 battery.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvEhvB7IUAAcQmf.jpg:large

It just got a whole lot more interesting....


23 posted on 08/15/2014 9:49:11 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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And our ignorant King still will not help sending arms to Ukraine. King Obama is a communists black Muslim traitor. Please remember TRAITOR. We had a treaty with Ukraine if they remove their nukes and we would support them.
24 posted on 08/15/2014 9:49:25 AM PDT by Logical me
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http://orientalreview.org/2014/08/13/dutch-professor-apologizing-for-mh17-tragedy-media-coverage-in-the-netherlands/


32 posted on 08/15/2014 11:08:57 AM PDT by bayouranger (Those who are anti-islam are a National Security Threat.- J.Brennan CIA Dir. Feb10)
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That “aid” convoy was carrying soldiers. Reinforcements.


33 posted on 08/15/2014 11:28:27 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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While I'm sure there'll be lots of folks cheering this, I don't see how any good can come of it.

Sometimes the bully is a genuine bad-ass and resents the bloody nose you just gave him.

If it was a column of 20 or so APCs, it may not have been smart to shoot them.

36 posted on 08/15/2014 11:48:18 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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The worse choice for the Ukrainians was to not hit the Russian military inside Ukraine.

The courage of these Ukrainians who fight for independence impresses me to no end.


40 posted on 08/15/2014 12:02:35 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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Sounds like Porkyshenko is now backing off his claims of a stinging defeat of the Russians.

#Poroshenko says claims of #Russian armor in east #Ukraine started from London #Guardian www.president.gov.ua/en/news/30998.html …


51 posted on 08/15/2014 12:28:58 PM PDT by McGruff (You can lead a human to knowledge but you can't make him think)
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My guess is NATO intel had a role in alerting the Ukrainians to Russian troop movements.

Could be, although some info. was available even here on FR. It's hard to hide an armored column, and apparently this one was spotted even by news organizations.

The US does have to be a little careful with intel, as Ukraine still has some way to go in purging traitors from their ranks. But where we can help without unduly endangering our methods and sources any more than they already are, we should.

98 posted on 08/16/2014 2:04:15 AM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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