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Author: Gvmt should use microchips to deny births to the ‘unworthy’
LifeSiteNews ^ | 8/14/14 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 08/15/2014 7:36:20 AM PDT by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee

COME AND TAKE THEM

21 posted on 08/15/2014 8:28:07 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Finally people are starting to see the trap.


22 posted on 08/15/2014 8:43:55 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Responsibility2nd
Obviously the idea of sterilization and forced implants is wrong. But so is the idea of PAYING women to have illegitimate children and REWARDING and ENCOURAGING them to do this with EBT cards, Section 8, and other government freebies.

Simply cut welfare benefits by 50 percent or more and see immediate and long lasting improvements.

Exactly. They are having babies because it's financially expedient to, and then they neglect them, letting them wander the streets, the neighbors feed them when they're hungry, getting their free school breakfasts and lunches.

I know. Been there and done that and seen it with my own eyes for more years than I can count.

(Not being on the dole, just for those who choose to misunderstand)

23 posted on 08/15/2014 8:55:03 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: DownInFlames

My state (NC) is still in the process of compensating eugenics “victims” via reparation claim payments. There’s some interesting reading on the official website.

http://www.sterilizationvictims.nc.gov/

Between 1929 and 1974, an estimated 7,600 people were sterilized by choice, force or coercion under the authority of the N.C. Eugenics Board program. The exact number of
victims alive today is unknown. However, the State Center for Health Statistics estimates that 2,944 victims may be living as of 2010.


24 posted on 08/15/2014 9:21:50 AM PDT by rhoda_penmark
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To: tbw2

Well, as long as it’s Them and not Us, I guess it’s okay. /s

Monetary assets and contributions are not a very accurate measure of human worth. You don’t get to void human rights based on arbitrary measures of the worth of others. It just doesn’t work that way.


25 posted on 08/15/2014 9:25:40 AM PDT by BykrBayb (The ovens weren’t lit in '35, but the smell of sulfur was in the air. ~ Þ)
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To: wagglebee

The idea behind it is not bad, but the implementation would be a nightmare. Forced sterilizations and abortions would just be for starters. What would they do if someone was found to have secretly given birth? Take the baby and kill it?


26 posted on 08/15/2014 9:31:00 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: BykrBayb
The Nazi euthanasia policy started in much the same way. In the late teens and early '20s a number of German intellectuals began to argue that the physically and mentally disabled should be eliminated. Useless eaters, don'tchaknow?, and anyway, they would be happier than living the lifes they endured.

It took a Hitler to create the legal conditions in which this program could be implemented and the Nazis, long before the concentration camps with the Jews, Gypsies, etc., had begun emptying out Germany facilities for the mentally and physically handicapped and eliminating their occupants.

27 posted on 08/15/2014 9:36:34 AM PDT by Robwin
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To: rhoda_penmark; Responsibility2nd; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; TheOldLady; xzins; ...
My state (NC) is still in the process of compensating eugenics “victims” via reparation claim payments.

Why do you put the word victim in quotation marks?

Do you not believe that someone is a victim when they are forcibly sterilized against their will?

Do you not think that they are entitled to compensation from the same state that did this to them?

28 posted on 08/15/2014 9:37:11 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Robwin

The Nazis used an effective PR campaign to gain acceptance of eliminating the dross.


29 posted on 08/15/2014 9:52:07 AM PDT by kallisti (courage nearly always wins)
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tbw2: The diffeence betwen your ideal program and Sanger's is a mere technicality.

Good God. I wouldn't trust bureaucrats to control everyone's credit card. I wouldn't trust them to control everone's LIBRARY card. Why would I trust them to control everyone's genital tract?

"Requiring" physiological alteration of one's sexuality means using force. Therefore "requiring" temporary sterility is assault and battery. Even coerion of such by offering rewards and punishments to produce a bogus "consent" is a crime.

And such was the judgment at Nuremburg.

30 posted on 08/15/2014 10:07:31 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Without justice, what is the State but a great band of robbers?" - St. Augustine of Hippo)
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To: wagglebee

“Why do you put the word victim in quotation marks?”

Because I was QUOTING it from the website. I didn’t offer an opinion one way or the other.

Paranoid much?


31 posted on 08/15/2014 10:10:19 AM PDT by rhoda_penmark
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To: wagglebee

This libnuts always think they’re gonna do things their way. I say if we want to control population, have them kneel, place their libpsycho face in the dirt, my boot on their neck, and a bullet in the head.

But oh no, they don’t want that. But if they keep pushing, millions of Americans just might give it to them anyway.


32 posted on 08/15/2014 10:13:31 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Well said, Mrs. Don-o.


33 posted on 08/15/2014 10:14:59 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: rhoda_penmark

“Paranoid”? I also wondered if you meant to be sarcastic.


34 posted on 08/15/2014 10:16:29 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Because I was QUOTING it from the website.

Odd, they don't put the word victim in quotation marks. You weren't quoting an exact phrase.

I didn’t offer an opinion one way or the other. Well then I'll ask again:

Do you not believe that someone is a victim when they are forcibly sterilized against their will? YES or NO

Do you not think that they are entitled to compensation from the same state that did this to them? YES or NO

Paranoid much?

Nope, I just have a lot of experience with certain types of comments on threads like this.

35 posted on 08/15/2014 10:18:05 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: rhoda_penmark; wagglebee
There was perhaps an unintended ambiguity because usually when just one word is highlighted by quotation marks, it indicates skepticism, just like "air quotes" or "scare quotes." It suggests the adjective "alleged" or "so-called".

Especially since the souce you cited, didn't use the quotes.

So you possibly gave an inadvertent wrong impression.

36 posted on 08/15/2014 10:19:16 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Most of us know more from being old, than from being told.)
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To: trisham; rhoda_penmark
It is odd how defensive some people get when asked for just some simple clarification.
37 posted on 08/15/2014 10:21:38 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; rhoda_penmark

Evidently so.


38 posted on 08/15/2014 10:24:59 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The difference between your ideal program and Sanger's is a mere technicality.

The thing that many fail to realize is that once something like this gets started it starts to snowball.

Playing God ALWAYS ends badly.

39 posted on 08/15/2014 10:25:51 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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You Know...I don't like all these Conservatives having so many kids, maybe it should be required that they be limited in how much they reproduce.

And I really don't like Blacks Either, too many are on the Dole, maybe their Population Numbers Should Go Down.

Or I REALLY don't like the Jews, that whole race needs to go away....

Oh? Did I play the "Hitler Card" Too Soon?

Well when the Suriving Nazi's were questioned about the Holocaust, their defence was that the United States had set precedence in Buck V. Bell in the 20's. Where the state could streilze any "defective"

40 posted on 08/15/2014 10:28:45 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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