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Police Militarization Is a Problem the Left and Right Can Agree About — and Solve
New York Magazine ^ | August 14, 2014 | Benjamin Wallace-Wells

Posted on 08/14/2014 2:41:49 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 08/14/2014 2:41:49 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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1st step is get rid of the unions for city & state workers.


2 posted on 08/14/2014 2:44:29 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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2nd step, stop sending military equipment to the police departmenst.


3 posted on 08/14/2014 2:47:43 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: nickcarraway

This is not a racial problem. No one in their right mind trusts a “police” force who can harm, brutalize or kill with impunity, whose “impartial” investigations invariably find the “officer” followed procedures and did nothing wrong. Police, TSA, ICE, FBI all the same. The law needs to apply equally to everyone. No longer can government agents be allowed a different standard of behavior than those who pay their salary. The concepts of “limited” and “qualified” immunity need to be long gone. Break in to a house with a search warrant that was obtained falsely, break into the wrong house, kill someone. A civil suit is no longer enough. That is MURDER ONE.


4 posted on 08/14/2014 2:48:07 PM PDT by Rodentking (There is no God but Yahweh and Moses is his prophet - http://www.airpower.blogspot.com/)
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I’m all for de-militarizing our local police, but also knukka-heads wrestling with the cops pretty much ask for the po-po to pop’em.


5 posted on 08/14/2014 2:48:19 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: minnesota_bound

If these guys loved the combat arms so much, they should’ve stayed on active duty. I sure don’t like the way this is headed.


6 posted on 08/14/2014 2:50:15 PM PDT by Ax
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People don't want anything solved. It leaves them with no one to blame. However there are those who actually get things done.

Meet a Town That's Had Enough of Militarized Policing
7 posted on 08/14/2014 2:50:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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Could someone please define “militarization” for me, concretely? I don’t think it means what you think it means.


8 posted on 08/14/2014 2:53:05 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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We have three problems:

1. Many on the left have no problem with militarized police, as long as they aren’t used against the left.

2. Many on the right have no problem with militarized police, as long as they aren’t used against the right.

3. They will be used against the left AND right.


9 posted on 08/14/2014 2:53:55 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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Is that what you were told occurred?

Or do ya have a link to their completed investigation? If so, I’d like to see it.

If not, what do ya think is taking so long?


10 posted on 08/14/2014 2:54:28 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Biggirl

It all starts at the most local level. My township doesn’t have police because we voted to get rid of them. They were unnecessary and expensive.

By law we have to contract with the county sheriff but they don’t come out here unless they’re called.


11 posted on 08/14/2014 2:56:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy
Many on the right have no problem with militarized police

I don't think so.

Any conservative telling ya they have no problem with the police becoming militarized is no patriot or conservative.

12 posted on 08/14/2014 2:57:04 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Oh I see. The author would have police wear sweats down around the center of their butts, Che T-shirts, flip-flops, and have their hats on backwards when confronting the masses throwing Molotov cocktails and firing at helicopters. This would certainly make the community feel much safer. The small minority in the streets that create the danger for LEOs and the community dictate the necessary protection level. If everyone out there were peaceful and non-violent, the police could wear their patrol uniforms. Would you want to go out there without protective clothing?


13 posted on 08/14/2014 2:58:14 PM PDT by Temujinshordes
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Yet we have many self-proclaimed conservative here doing just that.


14 posted on 08/14/2014 3:02:22 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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3rd step, cut their budgets and staff by 1/2.

We have TOO MANY COPS.

15 posted on 08/14/2014 3:02:58 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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I notice the author managed to choke out “libertarian” and “conservative” without spitting - barely - but one of the standard-bearers on the issue of too much government has been the unmentioned and presumably unmentionable Tea Party movement. You remember, those rabid, knuckle-dragging wing-nuts who faced down the BLM SWAT team in Nevada? Couldn’t be that they had a point all along, could it?


16 posted on 08/14/2014 3:03:37 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Rodentking
This is not a racial problem.

It is in Ferguson! Whiter people don't act like savages bent on lawlessness.

17 posted on 08/14/2014 3:04:28 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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Any conservative telling ya they have no problem with the police becoming militarized is no patriot or conservative.

True enough. It's probably more accurate to say "Many self-proclaimed conservatives (including some FReepers) have no problem with miliarized police . . ."

18 posted on 08/14/2014 3:04:32 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Rodentking
"That is MURDER ONE."

That's where we have to be.

And the affiant on the search warrant too.

Perhaps the Judge for not doing due diligence.

19 posted on 08/14/2014 3:04:52 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Jagdgewehr

*White


20 posted on 08/14/2014 3:05:21 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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