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Couple who abandoned surrogate baby with Down’s: we wanted refund, abortion
LifeSiteNews ^ | 8/11/14 | John Jalsevac

Posted on 08/12/2014 6:38:36 AM PDT by wagglebee


'I don't think any parent wants a son with a disability,' David Farnell told 60 Minutes, with his wife Wendy sitting at his side.

The Australian couple accused of abandoning their surrogate son in Thailand after he was born with Down syndrome have admitted that they would have preferred that the baby would have been aborted.

"If it would have been safe for the embryo to have been terminated, we probably would have terminated it," David Farnell told 60 Minutes in an extensive interview this weekend.

"I don't think any parent wants a son with a disability," he added, his wife Wendy sitting at his side. “Parents want their children to be healthy and happy and be able to do everything that every other children [sic] do.”

The couple also revealed that they asked the Bangkok-based surrogacy agency for a refund after learning that the baby suffered from Down’s.

"I said: 'Give us back our money. This is your fault,'" David said, explaining that they didn’t find out about the Down’s diagnosis until late in the pregnancy, at which point an abortion would have been risky. "We were very confused and we said that 'this is your fault. You must now take some responsibility for this.'" 

But despite the admission, the couple insisted that they never told the Thai surrogate mother to abort the boy, as she has claimed, and that they never abandoned him.

The Farnells’ story has captured international headlines and forced the couple into hiding after Pattharamon Janbua told Thai media how the pair paid her around $12,000 to act as a surrogate mother.

YouTube: 60 Minutes Interview

But when Pattharamon eventually gave birth to twins, the Farnells only took one of the children – a healthy girl – back with them to Australia, while the other child, named Gammy, remained behind with the surrogate mother.

The Farnells claimed in the 60 Minutes interview that they didn’t abandon Gammy and intended to go back to fetch him later.  

“The surrogate mother wanted to take our girl, and we were getting scared that we were going to lose her,” David said. “We had to try and get out as fast as we could.”

The couple vowed that they would go to Thailand to reclaim Gammy, even as they admitted that in the past six months since the baby’s birth they haven’t taken any steps to do so.

For her part Pattharamon has vowed in response that they will never get him back.

"I want them to come to Thailand. I will take Gammy to see them. But they will never get my boy," she told the Sydney Morning Herald.

"You are dreaming. You are already guilty of abandoning Gammy and now you think you can get away with this."

Gammy has suffered from numerous serious health complications, leaving Pattharamon and her husband struggling to pay for his medical bills.

After news of her predicament broke in international media, a “Hope for Gammy” fund was created, which has brought in over $240,000 in donations to date.

The Farnells, already one of the most hated couples in the world, further lost the sympathy of the public when media learned that David was convicted in the late 90s of numerous child sex offenses against girls as young as seven years old.

In the tense, emotional interview, 60 Minutes also grilled David about his past offenses, asking him whether the Farnells’ surrogate daughter would be safe in their care.

He claimed that the urges to sexually abuse children have “100 percent” stopped.

“I cannot do this again. I can't do this,” he said. “I know that I do not have any urges at all of this nature. For 30 years I've known this. I don't have any urges."

Meanwhile, the case is drawing scrutiny against the largely unregulated international surrogate trade, in which wealthy Westerners often travel to  Asian countries and pay poorer women to carry their children.

In response to the case, Thai officials are cracking down on the paid surrogacy trade. A draft law has already reportedly been submitted that would ban commercial surrogacy. 

Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott has said that the case is “sad,” and “illustrates some of the pitfalls involved in this particular business."

Meanwhile, Pattharamon is warning other Thai woman to avoid the siren call of easy cash from foreigners. 

"I would like to tell Thai women – don’t get into this business as a surrogate," she told Fairfax Media last week. "Don’t just think only for money - if something goes wrong no one will help us and the baby will be abandoned from society, then we have to take responsibility for that."  


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The Farnells, already one of the most hated couples in the world, further lost the sympathy of the public when media learned that David was convicted in the late 90s of numerous child sex offenses against girls as young as seven years old.

They are murdering pedophiles who should never be allowed near children.

1 posted on 08/12/2014 6:38:36 AM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 08/12/2014 6:38:55 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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They are a despicable couple of people. Just ask Sarah Palin.


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4 posted on 08/12/2014 6:39:32 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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“Parents want their children to be healthy and happy and be able to do everything that every other children [sic] do.”

Pure evil. Not all parents want to kill their child if all specifications aren’t met, although sadly it seems that throughout the world many do.


5 posted on 08/12/2014 6:41:39 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: wagglebee

Why is a child molester allowed to use a surrogate program?
His wife is as sick as he is to marry such a man.


6 posted on 08/12/2014 6:52:58 AM PDT by FR_addict
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... further lost the sympathy of the public when media learned that David was convicted in the late 90s of numerous child sex offenses against girls as young as seven years old.

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It was ‘ugly’ from the start & it just gets worse. God bless Gammy’s surrogate mom who has proved to be a REAL “mother” in every sense of the word. The little girl is at risk - don’t believe a word this man says about ‘no urges’ ..... “NUMEROUS” child sex offenses ..... one is one too many.


7 posted on 08/12/2014 6:54:16 AM PDT by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. (W.E. Johns)
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Yes, it shocks me that a convicted child molester would be involved with surrogate parenting. The recidivism (sp?) rate for these people is so high. It’s not unreasonable to say that this man can not be trusted around children.


8 posted on 08/12/2014 6:59:16 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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he operates from a faulty assumption that even a healthy born baby will never, ever have problems latter in life.

What if they are hit by the proverbial bus and are disabled?

Would this loser abandon his kid then?

9 posted on 08/12/2014 7:04:04 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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He hasn’t had urges for over 30 years? He was convicted in the late 90s. That’s not 30 years ago. Revolting people.


10 posted on 08/12/2014 7:05:16 AM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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This argument that the pro-death crowd uses that they need to know if their unborn child has a “defect” so that they can abort it is so bogus. What would they do if their 2 year old toddler fell down the stairs and receives a brain injury that leaves it like an Down’s Syndrome child? I guess they would just chuck it into the nearest dumpster and call it a late late late term abortion.


11 posted on 08/12/2014 7:06:17 AM PDT by Conservative_Rob
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To: wagglebee

These two obviously only wanted a baby to accessorize themselves in a socially competitive way. When the baby didn’t offer proper one-upsmanship points, they wanted a do-over. They are profoundly evil narcissists.


12 posted on 08/12/2014 7:07:47 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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i wouldn’t assume that his “Wife” is a woman. “She” might be a ladyboy - transvestite - that is extremely common there. So from their point of view they make the world’s best couple!!


13 posted on 08/12/2014 7:10:43 AM PDT by Colehill1999 (Revolution is a dish best served cold)
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To: wagglebee

What a repulsive story.


14 posted on 08/12/2014 7:14:33 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yes, it shocks me that a convicted child molester would be involved with surrogate parenting.

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They do it because with their sex offense records, they likely can’t adopt through normal channels. So, just go to a country like Thailand, find a poor woman who needs cash, and breed your own little babies to molest in the future. Per below, it’s “largely unregulated” so these poor babies end up in the hands of who knows what. I don’t think much of the sex offender’s wife either - bringing a baby girl into that household with her hubby’s proclivities.

From the article: “Meanwhile, the case is drawing scrutiny against the largely unregulated international surrogate trade, in which wealthy Westerners often travel to Asian countries and pay poorer women to carry their children.”


15 posted on 08/12/2014 7:26:47 AM PDT by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. (W.E. Johns)
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To: Conservative_Rob

What people like that do in that situation is pay the doctor to starve and dehydrate their child to death. That’s legal in all 50 states, and has become a matter of routine.


16 posted on 08/12/2014 7:27:41 AM PDT by BykrBayb (World Lung Cancer Day {WLCD} Aug 1 https://facebook.com/events/309580722464921 ~ Þ)
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To: wagglebee

Those two, him at least, are child molesters? Shouldn’t they be in prison for trying to obtain a new victim?


17 posted on 08/12/2014 7:29:17 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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You would think.
18 posted on 08/12/2014 7:29:42 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Looks like Australia has a serious problem if serial pedophials can buy children. Tragic for those poor children.
19 posted on 08/12/2014 7:35:42 AM PDT by txrefugee
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Pure evil. Not all parents want to kill their child if all specifications
aren’t met, although sadly it seems that throughout the world many do.
Yeah..TheNAZIs; practiced eugenics, too...
His sperm/Her eggs, you made 'em, you them keep 'em..the (the contractee) Thai
mercifully carried/nourished/gave birth (per contract) to 'em and let's NOT HAVE,
the "Wild Dingos, ate my baby boy" Story, Later.

20 posted on 08/12/2014 8:36:51 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...eh? "Bathhouse" 0'Mullah? d8-)
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