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Tunnel could boost high-speed rail cost ( California )
Cal Watchdog ^ | August 9, 2014 | Wayne Lusvardi

Posted on 08/11/2014 7:40:42 AM PDT by george76

The cost of the high-speed rail project might be going above the current estimate of $68 billion.

The California High-Speed Rail Authority recently announced a strategic shift to consider an alternative for its 40-mile Palmdale-to-Burbank link. Instead of the current plan of running it parallel to the Palmdale Freeway, the new line would run through a tunnel under the San Gabriel Mountains.

According to Los Angeles County Supervisor Mike Antonovich, who has advanced the idea, the tunnel would be about 15 miles long.

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it’s possible to calculate a rough — very rough – estimate. Let’s start with something we know: the tunneling cost for the proposed extension of the Long Beach 710-Freeway: $6 billion for a 4.9-mile segment, which works out to $1.22 billion per mile.

As mentinoned, the San Gabriel Mountain tunnel link for high-speed rail would be 15 miles long. If it costs as much do dig that tunnel as the 710 freeway extension, that would be $1.22 billion per mile, or $18.3 billion total (15 miles X $1.22 billion per mile = $18.3 billion.)

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KEYWORDS: highspeed; highspeedrail; highspeedtrain; highspeedtrains; trains
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To: Mr. K

Think of all the union jobs to be created.
That’s the goal.


21 posted on 08/11/2014 8:10:45 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Let’s ship a bunch of Hamas terrorists in, tell them it is a secret tunnel to blow up the white house, and let them at it.

I bet it could be done for less than a billion.


22 posted on 08/11/2014 8:12:15 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016)
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To: Jeff Chandler
The last earthquake in San Fran exposed the inefficiently built double decker expressway posts.

You know that somebody is going to cut some corners in order to get the lowest bid.

23 posted on 08/11/2014 8:16:26 AM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: Slyfox
Yeah, a tunnel in earthquake country sounds like a great idea to me.

BART has a tunnel going under SF Bay in earthquake country but it's not fifteen miles long. My ears pop when in the tunnel. I think claustrophobia would prevent me from riding a train in a fifteen mile long tunnel.

24 posted on 08/11/2014 8:19:11 AM PDT by bubbacluck (America 180)
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To: george76

They can’t build a bridge without making major mistakes, across the SF Bay and you want me to think they can build a 15 mile tunnel? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


25 posted on 08/11/2014 8:32:37 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: nascarnation

They will essentially rent it back at inflated rates as “public transportation”. A similar situation exists for the millions of acres of BLM land out west. If it wasn’t profitable to posess, they’d sell or otherwise liquidate it back into the private sector.


26 posted on 08/11/2014 8:32:42 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: george76
Hmmmm...starting to sound like this could be another joke like Boston's “BIG DIG” multi-billions debacle!!!
27 posted on 08/11/2014 8:34:31 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: liege

Do mistake your claustrophobia for good common sense.


28 posted on 08/11/2014 8:36:11 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: SpaceBar

Ugh...bureaucrats, union members, crony capitalists..Lord save us!


29 posted on 08/11/2014 8:38:02 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: george76

Oh plz.. if ever completed, this boondoggle is a 125 billion dollar monster.. they so underestimated the costs.

Typical pie in the sky California Dreamin’


30 posted on 08/11/2014 8:39:43 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: george76

Jerry Browns first term as governor in the 1970’s setup California to fail. He has come back to finish the job.


31 posted on 08/11/2014 8:41:22 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Slyfox
Yeah, a tunnel in earthquake country sounds like a great idea to me.

Yep, idiots! Trust me, nobody in CA wants this "train to nowhere" except a few politicians of the liberal persuasion!

32 posted on 08/11/2014 8:43:26 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (Molon Labe)
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To: george76

You don’t have to bury the earth quake victims.


33 posted on 08/11/2014 8:44:27 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: george76

A tunnel? In one of the most seismically active areas of the world?

ROFLMAO!


34 posted on 08/11/2014 8:44:47 AM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: CAluvdubya

... and their crook contractors.


35 posted on 08/11/2014 8:46:54 AM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: george76

Just where I want to be when the Big One hits on a high speed train and underground, I mean what could happen??


36 posted on 08/11/2014 8:49:27 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Slyfox
Yes, them too.

So glad we got out of there before we had to pay for this garbage.

Moonbeam joins hand in hand with Obama in destroying things they are in charge of.

37 posted on 08/11/2014 8:54:54 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (Molon Labe)
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To: GSWarrior

I suspect Diane Feinstein and Nancy Pelosi do.
Why would water be cutoff to the Central valley except to drive down land values?


38 posted on 08/11/2014 8:56:19 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Jeff Chandler; cogitator
Gee. A 200 mph train running underground would never need the tracks rebuilt after an earthquake, would it? From your link:

In repeated measurements of the different fault breaks at locations following the earthquake, the results remained consistent, leading to the belief that most of the slip had occurred during the mainshock. While lateral, transverse, and vertical motions were all observed after the earthquake, the largest individual component of movement was 1.6 m (5 ft 3 in) of left lateral slip near the middle of the Sylmar segment. The largest cumulative amount of slip of 2 meters (6 ft 7 in) occurred along the Sylmar and Tujunga segments, and the overall fault displacement was summarized by geologist Barclay Kamb and others as "nearly equal amounts of north-south compression, vertical uplift (north side up), and left lateral slip and hence may be described as a thrusting of a northern block to the southwest over a southern block, along a fault surface dipping about 45° north."[10]

39 posted on 08/11/2014 9:05:57 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Slyfox

“Yeah, a tunnel in earthquake country sounds like a great idea to me.”

Ohhhhh, dear God!


40 posted on 08/11/2014 9:12:56 AM PDT by kitkat (STORM HEAVEN WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY)
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