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Freeper Input needed. Does Anyone Here Breed Dogs? Looking for Information on Getting Started
08.10.14 | Chickesoup

Posted on 08/10/2014 3:16:58 PM PDT by Chickensoup

Does anyone here breed dogs? I love a certain breed of dog and next year I am going to end one of my jobs and would like to buy and raise and train a few dogs of my favorite breed.

But I don't know how to start. Love information. Or even direction.

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To: Salamander; Chickensoup

We’ve had four rescues. All were wonderful and very much loved.


141 posted on 08/11/2014 10:12:00 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Salamander; shibumi

:)


142 posted on 08/11/2014 10:14:07 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Some day I should sit down and figure out how many rescues I’ve had.

Probably 25-30, and I think maybe half of them, I kept for my own.

I’d have to remember names and tally them up that way.

I never have because it makes me so sad that so many of them are gone.

In 1991, I got involved in Ibizan rescue and 10 of them made their home with me.

I loved to sit and watch them bounce around the yard.

Of them, I only have Djinni and Gypsy the Podengo left.

Now I sit on the porch, watch them playing and wonder where my pack went.

My yard is starting to look like a pet cemetery.

It’s heart breaking.


143 posted on 08/11/2014 10:27:19 AM PDT by Salamander (He ain't heavy, he's my Boa.)
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To: rintense

Excellent post!


144 posted on 08/11/2014 10:29:53 AM PDT by lonevoice (Life is short. Make fun of it.)
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To: Salamander

You’re a good person. Three of our dogs have passed away since 2007, one last September, another in 2012. It saddens me.

We now have a 12 year old, a 3, almost 4 year old, and an 8 month old. Thank goodness for puppies. Otherwise, I’m not sure that I could bear it.


145 posted on 08/11/2014 10:42:16 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Four of my Ibizans gone since 2008.

If not for the younger dogs, it would be soul-crushing.

[and then there was the tragedy that was Halla...and that *was* soul-crushing]

Djinni will be 9 in December, Gypsy, 7 in October, Odin just turned 5 in July and Seven had her first birthday in March.

They are nicely staggered so I should be okay for a while.


146 posted on 08/11/2014 10:48:00 AM PDT by Salamander (He ain't heavy, he's my Boa.)
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To: Chickensoup; rintense
If I could breed the current dog, it would be wonderful. Intelligent, healthy, with a great personality, and good disposition.

As with human siblings of the same parents, there are variations among the siblings in regards to intelligence, personality and disposition. These traits are not necessarily hereditary.

English Shepherds to be used for breeding should be OFA or PennHIP tested. The dog being considered for breeding purposes may have perfect hips, yet carry the gene for hip dysplasia, which is genetically inherited.

Wikipedia tells us that 15% of all English Shepherds carry the MDR1 gene mutation, a potentially life-threatening condition. Potential breeding stock should be tested for the MDR1 gene mutation. Again, the dog selected for breeding may not have this condition, but may be a genetic carrier and pass it on to the puppies.

In addition to all the absolutely excellent advice given by rintense, I'd add studying and understanding genetics to the list of important considerations.

147 posted on 08/11/2014 10:52:32 AM PDT by lonevoice (Life is short. Make fun of it.)
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To: Salamander

I don’t think that I could have just one dog. As it is, I worry about every little thing. Frankie was limping a few days ago and I was beside myself. He’s fine now, and I canceled the appointment I had made for him for this afternoon, but it was quite a scare. And he’s the puppy!

What happened to Halla?


148 posted on 08/11/2014 11:02:11 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Salamander

Exactly! My bitch that I campaigned, took to Eukanuba in CA, Westminster, etc had 1 litter. Three of the bitches from that litter got their Ch, among other titles. None of them will be bred. I had two contracts for the puppies, one for pet homes and one for show/performance homes. Show bitches I co-own and had to approve of any breedings were they to happen. Pet homes had a spay/neuter requirement. And all homes require regular communication as to the well being of the animal. If someone contacted me and I didn’t like them, so didn’t want to have long term regular communication with them they didn’t get a puppy. And all my puppies, out of a 10 puppy litter were spoken for before they whelped. And oh the money and time I spent through the whole process: cardiac clearance, cone degenration clearance, hips, elbows, thyroid, etc etc. And thanfully my bitch was a great mother! Puppies sold for $1k each and I did not make any profit. It’s a real shame what some people do with the bitches they breed.


149 posted on 08/11/2014 11:15:36 AM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Roos_Girl

You totally rock.

:)


150 posted on 08/11/2014 12:35:01 PM PDT by Salamander (He ain't heavy, he's my Boa.)
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To: trisham

Halla was my little doomed Dobe girl who was hydrocephalic and died just shy of 8 months old.


151 posted on 08/11/2014 12:37:26 PM PDT by Salamander (He ain't heavy, he's my Boa.)
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To: Salamander

Yes, but Halla was fortunate enough to have YOU as an owner.


152 posted on 08/11/2014 12:40:19 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: lonevoice

English Shepherds to be used for breeding should be OFA or PennHIP tested. The dog being considered for breeding purposes may have perfect hips, yet carry the gene for hip dysplasia, which is genetically inherited.

Wikipedia tells us that 15% of all English Shepherds carry the MDR1 gene mutation, a potentially life-threatening condition. Potential breeding stock should be tested for the MDR1 gene mutation. Again, the dog selected for breeding may not have this condition, but may be a genetic carrier and pass it on to the puppies.

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great information, thanks!


153 posted on 08/11/2014 12:53:41 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Roos_Girl

Actually, you indicated that you wanted to have 2 litters per year, that would be breeding every heat cycle.

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Not with the same dog.


154 posted on 08/11/2014 12:54:54 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Salamander

Oh, that’s a shame! Poor baby.


155 posted on 08/11/2014 12:56:36 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: combat_boots

I reckon.

That was one rescue that nearly killed me.

I’d only gone over to give her daddy (also Odin’s daddy) a decent dog house so he’d do better in the harsh winters.

But I met her mom and the (surviving) pups and next thing I knew, I got a call that a pup was seriously not well and would I come get it.

Infinite amounts of love invested (and $4000) later, she was gone and there was not a thing I could do to stop what was happening inside her skull.

I have never had anything hurt so badly.


156 posted on 08/11/2014 1:00:25 PM PDT by Salamander (He ain't heavy, he's my Boa.)
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To: trisham

There’s lots of prayer threads here for her and FReepers generously helped with her medical expenses.

If not for them, I would not have had her as long as I did.

Talk about a debt that I can never repay.


157 posted on 08/11/2014 1:05:24 PM PDT by Salamander (He ain't heavy, he's my Boa.)
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To: trisham

I now have 4!!! No idea how I got here. :)

I am owned by two Belgian Sheepdogs and two Border Collies. 4 high drive herding breeds in one house means life is never dull!


158 posted on 08/11/2014 1:06:57 PM PDT by rintense
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To: Salamander

But you did it. YOU did.

And little Halla was lucky to have met you.

I waited 20 years to get another dog. It wasn’t that there weren’t any. I grieved way too long.

Now, I have 3.


159 posted on 08/11/2014 1:08:44 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Salamander

We do have some very kind FReepers. Vet bills can easily run into the thousands of dollars, I know.


160 posted on 08/11/2014 1:10:24 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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