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To: ETL 2
I recall this post, included here for convenience.
Obama summer vacation 1980: No doubt about it. He stayed in California the whole time. He did not return to Hawaii. This was the summer after his first year at Occidental in California, 1979-1980.

Importance: If Obama stayed in California that whole summer of 1980, then there was no way for him to fill out his Selective Service form on July 29, 1980 in Hawaii. Somebody else did it.

A forgery. If Obama knew that someone else filled out the form, then that is fraud and Obama is a liar, and he should be impeached.

How did I come to my conclusion that Obama stayed in California? I studied an article written in 2009 about Obama’s friends at Occidental in California his freshman year.

A poster here recently suggested that we read it. (NOTE: According to google, Red Steel at Free Republic quoted the entire article on May 15, 2008.) - ed. link here: Recalling Obama's Younger Days

I will not quote the whole article here.

I will quote those parts that show that Obama’s 1980 Selective Service form that we see on the internet is a forgery and those parts that show that Obama was in California the entire summer of 1980.

cbs AP/ June 18, 2009, 6:26 PM

Recalling Obama’s Younger Days

“Obama in the eyes of some right wingers is basically Muslim until proved innocent,” says Margot Mifflin, a friend from Occidental who is now a journalism professor at New York's Lehman College. “It's partly the Muslim factor by association and partly the fear of something being twisted.” The young man Mifflin remembers was “an unpretentious, down to earth, solidly middle-class guy who seemed somewhat more sophisticated than the average college student. He was slightly reserved and deliberate in a way that I sometimes thought betrayed an uncertainty.”

But another former Oxy classmate, Robert McCrary, now general manager of a contract sewing company, saw him differently: “He definitely had a cocky, sometimes arrogant way about him. ... He was not open to others.” Of course, he was only 18 when he arrived at the small liberal arts college nicknamed “Oxy.”

His freshman roommates were Imad Husain, a Pakistani, who's now a Boston banker, and Paul Carpenter, now a Los Angeles lawyer. Carpenter recalled Obama as “a good bodysurfer” who had “a funky red car, a Fiat,” and who also played intramurals &- flag football, tennis and water polo. “He was an athletic guy. He was gifted in that regard,” said Carpenter. He also remembered Obama being “super bright. He could get through the course work in a fraction of the time it took me.”

Obama had an international circle of friends - “a real eclectic sort of group,” says Vinai Thummalapally, who himself came from Hyderabad, India.

As a freshman, he quickly became friends with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, two wealthy Pakistanis.

There were others, Thummalapally recalls: a French student and both black and white Americans, including Jon K. Mitchell, who later played bass for country-swing band Asleep at the Wheel (Mitchell remembers that Obama wore puka shell necklaces all the time, though they were not in style, and that “we let it slide because he spent a lot of time growing up in Hawaii.”)

The friends got together often to watch basketball games - they were Lakers fans - and eat the southern Indian food that Thummalapally cooked with his cousin.

There was serious talk, too. Obama had concerns about U.S. foreign policy - including the failed hostage rescue mission in Iran under Jimmy Carter, and American support of the Contras in Latin America.

Thummalapally lived with Obama the summer of 1980. The two ran together daily, three miles in the early morning, often chatting about their dreams. Thummalapally wanted to start a business back home; Obama talked about helping people.

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1. Obama drove a red Fiat at Occidental. This means that Obama had eiher an Hawaiian or California license in 1979-1980, unless he was driving around Southern California without a license during that period.

2. Importance of Obama driver license: The person who filled out Obama’s Selective Service form in Hawaii on July 29,1980 had no identification: No Social Security card. No driver's license. no Occidental id card. Strange.

3. “ Thummalapally lived with Obama the summer of 1980. The two ran together daily, three miles in the early morning, often chatting about their dreams. Thummalapally wanted to start a business back home; Obama talked about helping people.”

Thummalapally: Anyone know where he is today? He obviously knows if Obama visited Hawaii in the summer 1980, because he lived with Obama during the summer of 1980.

4. Lived together and ran together daily.....not in Hawaii, but IN CALIFORNIA!

5. No mention of Obama going back to Hawaii. Can't be much clearer than that: Obama was in California for the entire summer of 1980, so there was no way for him to have filled out his Selective Service form on July 29, 1980. Someone else must have done it for him.

What about girls in Southern California at that time?

I bet there are plenty women today who remember Obama being in Southern California during the summer of 1980, some of whom must have visited Obama at his apartment. Where are you? Be brave and tell us what you know.

What about local bars and restaurants? I bet obama and his friends visited some of them in Southern California during the summer of 1980.

If you remember Obama frequenting restaurants and bars in Southern California during the summer of 1980, let us know. Speak up as a brave citizen of the United States who wants to do what is right.

6. What I also found impressive about the article was this: The wealth of names from Obama'sOccidental days who would know how Obama spent his summer of 1980, especially when there is no record of Obama holding a job from his first day at Occidental until he graduated from Columbia 4 years later.

Are we to blindly and naively accept the idea that Obama supported himself during his 4 years in college simply with college loan money and some mysterious scholarships, scholarships that no one can find anything about? Give me a break.

7. The names of Obama friends from Occidental in the article are below.

Investigators and reporters should put pressure on these people to tell us where Obama was during that summer of 1980. These friends can't hide behind federal privacy laws like Obama can.

Paul Carpenter, freshman roommate,Los Angeles Lawyer

Mohammed Hasan Chandroo

Wahid Hamid

Imad Hussain, freshman roommate, Boston banker

Robert McCrary

Margot Miffin, professor, Lehman college, New York

Jon R. Mitchell, later country band member

Andrew Roth

Vinai Thummalapally from Hyderabad, India; lived with Obama during summer of 1980

8. Hawaii summer 1980: If none of the people above can put Obama in Hawaii on July 29, 1980 when his Selective Service form was filled out, then Obama is a fraud and a liar and needs to be impeached.

23 posted on 07/09/2013 8:18:28 AM PDT by john mirse


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3040719/posts?page=23#23

John Mirse asks some great questions. I'll add this, "funky red Fiat or BMW?"

20 posted on 08/07/2014 9:06:44 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: john mirse; Red Steel

Courtesy ping to #20


21 posted on 08/07/2014 9:07:50 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: Ray76

nope
I met him August 1980, first weekend after payday in downtown honolulu

It would have been the 16th or 17th, military pay is the 15th and 30th, and the 15th that year was a friday, I would not have left base for lunch to honolulu

I was in civvies and met him downtown that weekend


34 posted on 08/08/2014 9:19:19 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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