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ISIS Forces Appear to Capture Iraq’s Largest Dam
New York Times ^ | August 7, 2014 | Alissa J Rubin and Tim Arango

Posted on 08/07/2014 9:13:12 AM PDT by C19fan

Sunni militants captured the Mosul dam, the largest in Iraq, on Thursday as their advances in the country’s north created an onslaught of refugees and set off fearful rumors in Erbil, the Kurdish regional capital.

Residents near the dam and officials in the region confirmed that the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, or ISIS, held the dam, a potentially catastrophic development for Iraq’s civilian population.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: iraq; iraqdam; isis; islam
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I have read there ISIS fields around 10,000 men spread over Syria and Iraq yet they are rampaging around northern Iraq almost unchecked. One would think say in some of these cities with hundreds of thousands there has to be tens of thousands of men of fighting age. Perhaps the 10,000 is major underestimation.
1 posted on 08/07/2014 9:13:12 AM PDT by C19fan
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Well it is a good thing we sent some advisors there to help with stopping ISIS. /s


2 posted on 08/07/2014 9:16:15 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: C19fan

They are waging a campaign through fear.

Some of the towns they take.. they are only leaving behind a few men to hold them.

And they are also forcibly “drafting” men into their army as they go.


3 posted on 08/07/2014 9:20:18 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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The have the “will” behind them. That ferocity (or the appearance of ferocity) will allow them to challenge large numbers of opponents. The untrained and unmotivated will run away.

One of these days they will me a well trained, disciplined, and equipped force.

They will be destroyed.


4 posted on 08/07/2014 9:23:32 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: C19fan

i think you’re correct.


5 posted on 08/07/2014 9:24:38 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: C19fan

Just dam.


6 posted on 08/07/2014 9:26:23 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Vermont Lt

One would think the Christian and Yazidis men with their families facing extermination instead of fleeing would fight. Although I do not know how easy it would be to get arms in that part of Iraq. If the US and the West had the will we could expand the Kurdish army with these other minorities to at least 100,000 fighting men.


7 posted on 08/07/2014 9:27:05 AM PDT by C19fan
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Maybe it would have been better to keep Saddam there.

You have to ask yourself if the killing and maiming of America’s best, and ruining the lives of their families, not to mention the squandering of trillions of dollars was the best use of our human and financial resources.

Maybe the better choice would have been to truly seal the southern borders, kick some drug cartel butt, and deal with the ROP right here at home.

We’re going to end up fighting them here anyway, George.


8 posted on 08/07/2014 9:28:18 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: C19fan

For all the money we have spent in the middle east over the last couple decades, what if we had instead put that towards energy independence?

Once we no longer need middle east oil, who cares what they do to themselves.


9 posted on 08/07/2014 9:31:02 AM PDT by Marko413
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If I think about why we wouldn’t the only thing I can think of is that we want them to take out the rest of Iraq and provoke Iran.

Iran would wipe the floor with these guys, but there would be a loss of strength. It might even get a reaction from the Iraqi army.

In the end you have a weakened Iran, “invading” another country. That would be justification for action against them.

Other than that, I cannot think of why no one is taking action.


10 posted on 08/07/2014 9:33:14 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

Agreed. Democracy is not right for this part of the world. They do best with an iron-fist secular dictator.

In a democracy, they will just vote the most violent Islamists into power.


11 posted on 08/07/2014 9:33:19 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: C19fan

And Obama said “Fore!”


12 posted on 08/07/2014 9:34:44 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: MichaelCorleone

Another story I read said pre invasion there were 1.5+ million Christians in Iraq, now less than 300k...
I would say that was a very poor decision...


13 posted on 08/07/2014 9:35:54 AM PDT by wyowolf
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I think these guys are too smart to provoke Iran. They’ll just glare at each other.


14 posted on 08/07/2014 9:38:06 AM PDT by Borges
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Personally, I would like to see them (ISIS) destroyed. But, if they move elsewhere, I would love to see them march on Mecca. But that is wishful thinking.

It is more likely they will try to provoke Jordan.


15 posted on 08/07/2014 9:41:44 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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Perhaps the 10,000 is major underestimation.

Soon you will hear new "surprise" estimation of the ISIS numbers. One indication of a larger numbers and strength is they are fighting on two fronts in Lebanon and in Iraq. The forces they are engaging are not the Iraqi Shia Army that ran off at the first sign on trouble, but Peshmerga and Lebanonesee Shia Army.

I would suspect that the ranks are growing with former Sunni Baathist and so-called moderates that are growing tired of Civil War in Syria and are ready to carve out a new state.

16 posted on 08/07/2014 9:47:25 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: 11th Commandment

bttt


17 posted on 08/07/2014 9:48:15 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

Would have, could have, should have....

Saddam Hussein never bothered the Christians but George is still of the opinion that Islam is the ROP and he has never corrected himself.


18 posted on 08/07/2014 9:52:36 AM PDT by 353FMG
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Apparently the Iraqi people have decided not to fight for freedom. Why bother when someone else will bail them out and risk a bunch of foreigner’s lives instead of risking their own?


19 posted on 08/07/2014 10:03:22 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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quick,
pull the plug and run.


20 posted on 08/07/2014 10:32:43 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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