Posted on 08/06/2014 11:57:59 AM PDT by Kaslin
Article V ping.
You can impeach obama all you want, it won’t do any good. He has the backing of 47% of the population (aka: the free shit army), millions of central american socialsts who overran the border, and the entire executive branch of alphabet soup agencies, loaded to the top with radical obamabots, at his disposal. And people wonder how a coup can be pulled off in a plain sight. And the worst part is, he will use alinsky tactics to make the other side play by the rules, and the other side will fall for it, while the obama regime shreds any and all rules in sight to achieve their goal. Bolshevik revolution redux, US style.
Exactly.
It's folly to think this "president" will have any regard at all for ANY amendments, past or future.
And we (Congress) have proven that they have no will to do anything about it.
Good grief. Will you please read the amendment summary?
Good discussion, thanks!
Here is a perfectly constitutionally legal form of coup d'etat that can be used to oust Obama without going through a nasty impeachment process.
Imagine the following scenario.
Amendment 25 Section 4Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.
1. Joe Biden organizes the principle Cabinet members to side with him and declares Obama to be unable to discharge his duties as president. He submits this signed declaration to Pat Leahy and John Boehner and assumes the Presidency.
1a. As an interesting variation, "either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide" suggests that Congress can pass a law naming another body besides the Cabinet that can side with the Vice President. What if Congress were to pass a law allowing, say, a body of NYT and WaPo editors, ABC-NBC-CBS-CNN-MSNBC journalists, and college deans - a totally unelected body of people - to legally declare the president incapable of discharging his duties? What if Biden gets these "intellectual elites" to side with him to oust Obama?
2. Obama then fights back by sending a letter to Leahy and Boehner stating that he is not incapable of discharging his duties, and he declares that he has resumed the Presidency.
3. Biden then gets his supporting body to redeclare within four days that Obama is still unfit for office.
4. Once Biden redeclares that Obama is unfit, Congress must then assemble within 48 hours if in session, or within 20 days if in recess, and vote to accept Biden's declaration by 2/3rds vote, or to accept Obama's declaration that he is still fit for office.
5. Congress sides with Obama and declares Obama to no longer be President.
6. Joe Biden takes over as acting President of the United States.
Hey, I can fantasize, can't I?
-PJ
The problem is that written words have no power to act.
The Constitution only bars the actions of a majority which is moral. i.e. at the end of the day, following the Constitution is voluntary for the majority.
I’m waiting for the first SCOTUS decision that clearly states that the Constitution itself is an unacceptably binding document.
My pleasure
Lol. 3 words completely negate any good coming from Texas: Sheila Jackson Lee - If she can be elected in Texas, of all places, we are doomed.
Good grief! Do you understand what we are dealing with or not??
Amendments MEAN NOTHING to a lawless regime and oligarchy.
How do you propose to implement any Amendment when this regime has stated it will ignore the Constitution and with help from the courts and the media declare the will of the people, "unConstitutional"???????
There IS NO CIVIL SOLUTION to reversing the coup we suffered. Do you get that truth or not???
If not - and if a majority think like you - then our fate as a Constitutional Republic is over.
There is a 95% chance that there will never be any convention.
If, by some miracle of popular uprising (like the temporary delay of amnesty and scuttling of Harriet Miers) the Oligarchy is forced to call a convention, they will produce poisoned pill amendments that would never be ratified by enough states.
The only other option would be for the permanent installation of tyranny by taking the opportunity to ensure that the Oligarchy never has to open themselves up to shenanigans like Article V again. They could do this through a short term calculated and targeted operation with the help of local and national politicians, their friends in big data (Google, Twitter, Facebook), their friends in the mass media (MSNBC, Fox, CBS, CNN), etc...
Think of it as one last grandaddy of all PR stunts to convince us to sign away the farm.
You need to come to grips with the fact that like free market capitalism, the idea of self government was a fleeting, flash in the pan, 18th/19th century phenomenon, never to be seen again.
I did. I see nothing there that would force the lawlwss to follow the law.
INVAR is right there is no civil solution. The only solution is to quickly go back where the country started from. A massive revival in this country is the only way to fix this broken mess, I am not sure there is time for that.
Thanks again for pinging.
great article.
I find this to be interesting, “in 1960 the case could have been made at the time that that election was fraudulent in both West Virginia and Chicago, Cook County. Nixon could have fought it and probably could have won it. He decided to defer to the election process in order to not put the country through something like that. We don’t have people like that right now.”
At this point today, I may disagree. If Nixon had fought it and won, then we wouldn’t be having the election corruption that we have today. Yes, it would have been painful for the country, but better to excise it when it is small rather than let it grow and become all consuming.
Let me answer your question with four questions:
1. How many guns do they have?
2. How many guns do we have?
3. How many people do they have?
4. How many people do we have?
Yes, they are better trained than we are and they have menacing equipment we don't have. But we will always have more people and more guns than they do.
Spend some time watching 'The Patriot.'
So when this convention convenes to get rid of the president, can they also get rid of the federal reserve?
“Have we become so evil that God has turned His back on us? I sure hope not.”
Did you know that God warned the Israelites not to do what the natives of the Promised Land were doing or He would have them invaded, too? Child sacrifice. God did not forgive the nation of Israel. Forgave the individual king who repented but judgment came later—70 years in Babylon.
It doesn’t matter how many guns we have, or if we even have a gun.
What matters is whether or not we possess the will to use it.
When food and water will be used as a weapon to render a people to abject misery and privation, guns will be used for personal provision - not for organized resistance to tyranny.
In that, the Oligarchy has the advantage.
Human nature and history teaches that a people will betray their own flesh and blood for a mere promise of bread.
And make no mistake, those in power understand that tactic.
The number of guns means nothing. We do not possess a collective will to resist what the “Free shit army” will empower against us. if we did, we would not be where we are right now.
How many tens and hundreds of thousands of South Americans has Obama brought into this country in the last year? We bitch and moan - and are powerless to stop it.
God is the only One that can save our Republic now - and since we sat on our hands while we lost the culture in the name of ‘tolerance’, I would not expect Him to help us out.
We sealed our own fate - and dependence upon guns without righteousness and willpower is not going to restore liberty.
And I would add “How many former VETS would side with US?”
The local police have families... Let’s see how committed they are when they have to worry about who’s protecting them...
Thanks. I thought about Vets after I posted. They have experience we need. Maybe they’ll teach or share info.
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