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Lobbyists quietly advise GOP on gay marriage shift
The Hill ^ | 7/30/2104 | Megan R. Wilson

Posted on 07/30/2014 8:30:49 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Republicans on K street are helping members of their party shift their stance on gay rights issues.

Kathryn Lehman, a top GOP lobbyist and partner at Holland and Knight carries a list of 40 to 50 Republican offices in the House and Senate she visits on behalf of Freedom to Marry, a group that backs same-sex marriage.

"The issue is losing its toxicity from a Republican perspective," she said, mentioning that the list was a fraction of that size when she first took on Freedom to Marry as a client in 2011.

Lehman... helped to write the Defense of Marriage Act while working on Capitol Hill...

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 113th; congress; gop; gop4obama; gop4romneyagenda; gop4romneycare; gop4romneymarriage; homosexualagenda; jokingonromneyin2016; lolromneyin2016; moralabsolutes; romneyin2016
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To: wagglebee
What I'm saying is that if a candidate who agrees with me on the major issues, the border, gun rights, state's rights, jobs taxes and he is pro gay marriage and he is running against a person who is for amnesty, gun control, big government and higher taxes yet he is against gay marriage, I will support the candidate who agrees with me on major issues.

That said, I think it shouldn't be call marriage. It should be civil unions..not marriage. ( I agree with you on marriage. Marriage is between a male and female.)

101 posted on 07/30/2014 12:40:22 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Do you believe in STATE'S RIGHTS? I do.. I think if citizens of a state voted for gay marriage (not through the courts but voted for it), shouldn't it be recognized?

Limited government should not tell free citizens what do do. That is from drinking a 64oz soda, having guns, sunbathing (surgeon General wants us to quit tanning... screw that) or seat belts. it is not the job of the Federal Government.

102 posted on 07/30/2014 12:48:20 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: ExCTCitizen; Responsibility2nd; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; TheOldLady; xzins; ...
What I'm saying is that if a candidate who agrees with me on the major issues, the border, gun rights, state's rights, jobs taxes and he is pro gay marriage and he is running against a person who is for amnesty, gun control, big government and higher taxes yet he is against gay marriage, I will support the candidate who agrees with me on major issues.

So, you don't think the sanctity of marriage is a major issue?

No matter how bad it gets, we can always close the border.

If 2nd Amendment rights are violated, they can be restored.

"States rights" don't even exist. PEOPLE have rights, states have enumerated powers, there IS a difference. However, as I demonstrated earlier, marriage IS a federal issue due to the the Full Faith and Credit Clause and the 14th Amendment.

Taxes have always gone up and down, as has employment, to think that anything done on these is ever permanent is naive.

Marriage, on the other hand, is something that CANNOT be undone in any reasonable manner once it's changed. Once the genie is out of the bottle it will be almost impossible to put back in.

So, it seems that you consider issues that are largely cyclical to be major, but you consider the destruction of a 6000 year old institution to be unimportant.

That said, I think it shouldn't be call marriage. It should be civil unions..not marriage.

Legal unions between individuals have ALWAYS existed; they are referred to, among other things, as partnerships and corporations.

I agree with you on marriage. Marriage is between a male and female.

This sounds like the pro-same-sex "marriage" version of, "I'm personally opposed, but..."

103 posted on 07/30/2014 12:50:18 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: ExCTCitizen

Do you believe in STATE’S RIGHTS? I do.. I think if citizens of a state voted for gay marriage (not through the courts but voted for it), shouldn’t it be recognized?

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Conversely - if the majority of citizens vote AGAINST queer marriages shouldn’t THAT be recognized?

As you should know - Black robed thugs (federal courts) are rejecting States Rights and imposing their own will against the majority. How are they doing that?

Because liberals like you don’t give a damn about social issues on a national level (Like The Defense of Marriage Act) and as a result we are screwed.

I see you ignored my points I made about DOMA. I shall repeat: Because DOMA was overturned; we now have queer marriages pending even in states that voted against that issue.

But - according to you - Fedgov involvement in marriages is always wrong, so you must be fine and happy with the aftermath of queer marriages.

Right?


104 posted on 07/30/2014 1:02:32 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

When do the American people get a lobby? These are supposedly our representatives. When do we get some representation?


105 posted on 07/30/2014 1:06:48 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of liberty only to see marxism elected at home.)
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To: wagglebee
That said, I think it shouldn't be call marriage. It should be civil unions..not marriage.

Civil Unions? Sheesh, we lost that battle years ago. And because the libs were willing to cave on that issue - the queers pushed their agenda further. Now we fight Civil Marriages. And because the libertarians are caving there also, we now see evern more perversions on the horizon.

106 posted on 07/30/2014 1:11:02 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: driftdiver

For the first and so far only time in over 20,000 posts on this site, “check my tagline”.


107 posted on 07/30/2014 1:21:26 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: ExCTCitizen
"At this point, I don't care about the social issues. We have more pressing issues, jobs, taxes, terrorism, Obamacare, then whether Steve is marrying Adam. When we get those issues finished, let's worry about stupid things."

So...you don't care about murder of infants? You don't mind the normalization and embrace of sick perversion? IYO, those who do care are stupid?

Sounds like you're in dire need of a moral compass.

108 posted on 07/30/2014 1:43:42 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: ExCTCitizen
" Gay marriage is not a pressing issue IMHO"

If you had a belief in God, you would understand the utter foolishness of that statement.

109 posted on 07/30/2014 1:46:53 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: OneVike

“Joining the left in supporting either of these issues, is tantamount to telling God that He is wrong.”

They are already telling God that He is wrong WRT divorce, birth control, fornication, and for the most part, sodomy.

They are inviting leftards to skew Republican primaries.

It is not true that every Republican is a scumbag, but the Republican Party now tolerates scumbags in positions of authority.

I have been a registered independent for a few weeks now.


110 posted on 07/30/2014 2:54:41 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

We conservatives need a new party. The GOP if they turn away and support gay marriage are dead to me now.


111 posted on 07/30/2014 3:09:07 PM PDT by ProudChrwm
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To: driftdiver

Beck must be back on the bottle-—he’s said some really dopey stuff lately. Kind of like he’s trying to be everybody’s friend again. And this Lehman chick must mean by “less toxic” that she is getting thrown out of fewer offices on capitol hill now?


112 posted on 07/30/2014 3:15:28 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Arm_Bears

What? Well I get about a cubic foot of fund raising mail from them every month. I’m up to about 2025 with a supply of fire starters. How they can send out so much mail and still say absolutely nothing is the 8th wonder of the modern world. Occasionally I write back and ask what the actual platform is? In 40 years or so I’ve never gotten a reply. And it’s been a couple decades since I’ve actually send the RNC any money——not sure why they keep writing?


113 posted on 07/30/2014 3:27:59 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I don’t support people who wish to define sodomy as marriage.

The Republican party can rot in hell if that is their position. I sure won’t join them.


114 posted on 07/30/2014 3:51:10 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Travis McGee

I would change the world can to will. Can implys we are doing something to prevent them when in fact we have nothing to do with their very much natural problems.


115 posted on 07/30/2014 3:53:04 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: driftdiver

I haven’t watched Glenn Beck since he left Fox. Does he even sincerely promote Christianity?


116 posted on 07/30/2014 6:19:15 PM PDT by 82nd Bragger (Count to five except when in a helicopter)
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To: 82nd Bragger

I don’t listen much but all I’ve heard is him promote faith and not religion


117 posted on 07/30/2014 6:39:20 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: OneVike

If the body politic as a whole goes looie on marriage it will only serve as a lesson on what you get when you put a matter of this degree of spiritual importance in Caesar’s hands. They might CALL it marriage but it ain’t marriage, any more than the ocean is fresh water.


118 posted on 07/30/2014 6:42:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Your first post was far more respectful of your intended audience.


119 posted on 07/30/2014 6:44:26 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Monorprise

Even homos can marry in the normal manner.


120 posted on 07/30/2014 6:44:40 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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