Posted on 07/29/2014 10:03:02 PM PDT by blam
I’m thinking the panic over an out break in, say, Los Angeles, might kill more people than the disease itself.
Hmmmm.
That sounds like motivation to keep an outbreak secret as long as possible, eh?
I didnt say I was in favor of martial law - I think I’d rather trust my chances with Ebola than with the government scene we saw in Boston after the bombings. I just said an outbreak of Ebola in this country would be one of the few legit uses of martial law....
sorry to burst your bubble, but snot is a bodily fluid. If someone coughs or sneezes directly on you, or you come in contact with the snot they just blew all over the seat you just sat in, you can contract ebola. The real problem with ebola is it causes the victims to bleed and leak body fluids everywhere. Trained professionals in full gear are now coming down with the disease. Think again about transmission,
GMTA. I love the “accurate” medical advice on this forum by people who know so much about it.
Meaning?
The link posted upthread also lsits sweat as bodily fluid which will transmit ebola.
sweat, in central Africa
I live in Tampa.
“The real problem with ebola is it causes the victims to bleed and leak body fluids everywhere.”
Does the virus require a fluid solution to survive 5 days? Does anyone know how long can it survive once the fluid has dried?
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That’s a good question and I haven’t been able to find an answer. Some viruses can survive years on surfaces. Others only a few hours.
Meaning if it is so hard to spread that the average person does not need to worry about casual contact with an infected person (as the poster I was replying to said), how are people who know what they are doing and taking full precautions coming down with the illness? This is a highly infectious virus and should not be taken lightly. Just because we dont have 3rd world health care (yet) does not mean there isnt a cause for concern.
Bring Out Your Dead
Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.
The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.
So far the false positive rate is 100%.
At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.
*sigh* Such is life, and death...
I’m not entirely sure, but I think it can live on surfaces for hours to days - Id have to do some research beyond that. There is no doubt actual body fluid is the most infectious though
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/lab-bio/res/psds-ftss/ebola-eng.php
INFECTIOUS DOSE: 1 – 10 aerosolized organisms are sufficient to cause infection in humans
In the laboratory, infection through small-particle aerosols has been demonstrated in primates, and airborne spread among humans is strongly suspected, although it has not yet been conclusively demonstrated
HYSICAL INACTIVATION: Ebola are moderately thermolabile and can be inactivated by heating for 30 minutes to 60 minutes at 60ºC, boiling for 5 minutes, gamma irradiation (1.2 x106 rads to 1.27 x106 rads), and/or UV radiation
SURVIVAL OUTSIDE HOST: The virus can survive in liquid or dried material for a number of days (23). Infectivity is found to be stable at room temperature or at 4°C for several days, and indefinitely stable at -70°C (6, 20). Infectivity can be preserved by lyophilisation.
If you think it spells an end of the world threat to advanced people’s, I guess we will just have to wait and see if the next 40 years of the disease lives up to that claim.
So far, I don’t see it as creating an apocalypse type situation in America.
What I think is what I’ve posted. That you are underestimating how dangerous this virus is.
Underestimating a threat is a sure way to finding out how bad it is.
And they’re having this African Summit next week hosting multiple delegations from across the infected region. The delegations will likely contain dozens of aides and associates who will patronize many DC establishments -of all sorts.
No wonder the fed has warned of the possibility of shutting the government down. Unfortunately, due to the 7-day incubation period this may occur after the delegations have departed DC for excursions across the US -as they typically do on their diplomatic visas.
My “estimate” is that it isn’t an “end of the world” disease, that it won’t result in an “apocalypse” scenario for America.
If you think that is underestimating it, then we will just have to wait and see, if it becomes the end of the world EMP type road warrior scenario that you seem to want to argue, then my preps will still apply.
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