Posted on 07/28/2014 9:10:12 AM PDT by fishtank
Your premise of your argument is that secular scientists hold there own resposible for their work, and scientists who beleive in God do not. How do you know that all these scientists were secular? If any of these scientists that held Obokata accountable beleived that their is a God, your argument is nullified.
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Regarding my post #12, please note I also mentioned the Warm Mineral Springs brains which were actual tissue - not fossilized in any way.
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That’s great. That’s also irrelevant.
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I only mentioned the Amber DNA as a humorous pull on your chain. I’ll remember the sarcasm and/or irony tag next time.
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Pull *my* chain? I only had one post in the entire thread, and that was a rebuttal to you.
And perhaps you *do* need those sarcasm/irony tags after all, because your mention of dinosaur DNA in amber (presumably in insect guts) looked serious in every detectable way. To wit:
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To: afsnco
In the ongoing slagfest of “Evo” v. “Crevo”, this line from the article is pitiful, “The team thinks they have uncovered brains inside the partially buried skull. If further research verifies this, how could brains last that long?”
The short answer is similarly to how dinosaur DNA survived in bugs found in amber, and let’s not forget the actual, perfectly preserved human brains found in skulls in Warm Mineral Springs, FL.
Battle’s on!
;-)
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Not at all. This whole "secular scientists" as atheists construct is yours to begin with--it'd be more accurate to say that if any scientist who accepts global warming (or whatever it is you think "secular scientists" think about homosexuality or abortion) believes in God, your argument is nullified.
As I said before, most scientists believe in God. And most of them don't let their belief get in the way of doing good science, which includes holding other scientists responsible for their work. This is different from ICR, which allows Brian Thomas and others to continually publish false and misleading material without ever issuing a retraction or, apparently, telling him to shape up.
And you accepted the premise of secular scientist:
Can you imagine the world we might be living in if secular scientists didn't always get it wrong? We might have ways to... prevent them from getting polio. Oh wait...
Jonas Salk wasn't a secularists, he beleived there was a God. Again, nice try!
--it'd be more accurate to say that if any scientist who accepts global warming (or whatever it is you think "secular scientists" think about homosexuality or abortion) believes in God, your argument is nullified.
You can't be secular and believe in God. Again, nice try!
At the time I wrote that, I didn't realize you thought "secular" meant "atheist." It doesn't. Wikipedia has a whole entry on "secular clergy," who obviously aren't atheist. This article about Angkor Wat says
Even after its glory days had passed, Angkor remained popular with Buddhist pilgrims who journeyed from across Southeast Asia and beyond. Today the site also draws secular travelers—almost a million a year.I don't think they mean they're all atheists.
You can't be secular and believe in God.
By now, it should be obvious that that's not true. You're simply using the word the wrong way.
The distinction that's important here isn't between scientists who believe in God and those who don't--both can follow good scientific practice. The distinction is between those who follow good scientific practice and those who pursue their own agenda instead, whether for political, personal, or nominally religious reasons.
Yeppers, I only use “secular” when I talk about the clergy!
The distinction is between those who follow good scientific practice and those who pursue their own agenda instead, whether for political, personal, or nominally religious reasons.
Yeppers, them secular scientists NEVER have a political, personal, or nominally religious reasons for what they do!
You’re talking in circles and not addressing any of the points I and others have made. I think I’ll let you think you won this. Congratulations!
Shucks! And just when your fallacious oxymoronic arguments were becoming entertaining.
RIP Marty Feldman. You died too young.
You should really stay away from big words like “secular” and “oxymoronic.” You might hurt yourself.
BAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA !!! OTFLOL !!! Yeppers, good comeback! Sleep well, I will.
Don’t worry - no one is teaching science to your kids.
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