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Widow: Eric Garner, Who Died in NYPD Custody, Wasn’t Violent (Afro Reports)
The Afro ^ | 7/26/14 | AP

Posted on 07/28/2014 6:42:30 AM PDT by YourAdHere

Edited on 07/28/2014 7:18:15 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: null and void; Puppage

Oh no, Puppage says he was killed because he didn’t cooperate when the police tried to cuff him. We all know that is a capital offense.


41 posted on 07/28/2014 9:10:20 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Ok, the joke's over. Bring back the Constitution.)
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To: Puppage

Straw man argument. SUBMIT OR MURDER. So if you don’t do exactly what the police demand, no matter what it is....they can kill you. I say NO.


42 posted on 07/28/2014 9:13:37 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Ok, the joke's over. Bring back the Constitution.)
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To: yldstrk; DJ MacWoW

John is systems and and programming, I’m management, Amy and Chis are admin.


43 posted on 07/28/2014 9:13:44 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Puppage

” No, I am saying a person who doesn’t
comply with a police officer’s directive,
plays a part in whatever injury occurs
after the fact. That’s what COURT is for.
How were the cops supposed to know if
he didn’t have a weapon? Take his word
for it, hmm?”

Yes, because courts and government have been so good at controlling out of control cops. Look at the long sentences for the cops in the Dorner hunt, or the cop who killed a kid for holding a wii controller.
Oh, wait. Nothing happened to them. Well, we are noticing that, and so are cops. Cops are smiling at all they can get away with. And those they serve are getting angrier. It is no accident people put up a memorial to a cop killer in NJ.


44 posted on 07/28/2014 9:13:50 AM PDT by LevinFan
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To: Puppage; null and void; SpeakerToAnimals; reefdiver; arthurus
Section 203-11 of the NYPD Patrol Guide is clear:


“Members of the New York City Police Department will not use choke holds. A choke hold shall include, but is not limited to, any pressure to the throat or windpipe, which may prevent or hinder breathing or reduce intake of air.”


http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs2xuuKCIAABh7S.jpg:medium

45 posted on 07/28/2014 9:20:54 AM PDT by FBD
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To: Puppage

No, it’s not ignore what the police say. Nobody has said that except you as a straw man to put a choke hold on and knock down.

Just the fact that the cop put an unsanctioned (to be kind) choke hold on him tells me all I need to know. There are many ways for the cops to be passively aggressive and control the situation but in most cases, big city cops go straight for the violence. They just can’t stand somebody not obeying their every word.

Look at the video and pictures. The man was passively resisting, there was no reason to take him down with a choke hold.

And post #10 is full of it. Whoever they are they’re still living in the 70’s. Cigarettes are not 45 cents a pack in North Carolina.


46 posted on 07/28/2014 9:43:28 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: FBD

“I felt threatened” would have covered that, too.


47 posted on 07/28/2014 10:01:31 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: arthurus
The second most overused phrase in their handbook.


48 posted on 07/28/2014 10:15:09 AM PDT by FBD
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To: pepsionice

Indian reservation cigarettes are $3.95 per pack.
That’s less than half of what New York City taxes on cigarettes are; $4.35
No wonder there’s a black market.

In Tax Fight, Tribes Make, and Sell, Cigarettes

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/23/nyregion/indian-tribes-make-own-cigarettes-to-avoid-ny-tax.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0


49 posted on 07/28/2014 10:24:37 AM PDT by FBD
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To: FBD

Excellent, and thank you! This applies to this case.


50 posted on 07/28/2014 10:57:58 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: Shimmer1

You’re obviously incapable of grasping my point.Why not throw in some words that I never said . Ok, you’re right everyone is wrong and when the police tell you to do something.....do whatever you want.


51 posted on 07/28/2014 11:05:54 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage

Oh of course I’m incapable of grasping your point. It can’t be that your point just doesn’t make good sense. Oh no. Always someone else’s fault.


52 posted on 07/28/2014 11:40:07 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Ok, the joke's over. Bring back the Constitution.)
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To: Shimmer1

The guy refused commands from the police. Had he done so, there would never have been the illegal choke hold . Period. That’s the ONLY point I was making. Nothing more. YOU added all the rest by adding your feeeeeeeeeeeeelings.


53 posted on 07/28/2014 11:43:23 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

Welcome. Pass it along, thanks!


54 posted on 07/28/2014 11:56:05 AM PDT by FBD
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To: yldstrk
Thank you, what is management and admin?

Mostly folks who don't hate men, use proper capitalization and punctuation and manage things.

I know, you never met any.

Put any men in jail lately?

55 posted on 07/28/2014 2:12:02 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Jim Robinson

Great Scott, openness and accountability here, elsewhere sadly lacking! One more question—what does it cost to have an individual post daily for a month?


56 posted on 07/28/2014 3:37:50 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: driftdiver
Sharpton is only showing up for a payday.

If you do not remit

I will not quit
57 posted on 07/28/2014 3:41:34 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Puppage

What part of “there should never have been a chokehold, especially one like that, in any case” do you not understand??


58 posted on 07/28/2014 4:09:44 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Ok, the joke's over. Bring back the Constitution.)
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