Posted on 07/28/2014 6:37:59 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell
UNKNOWN QUESTIONER:
Um, you mentioned the Health Insurance Exchanges for the States. And its my understanding that if the States dont provide them, that the Federal Government will provide them.
M.I.T. economics Prof. Jonathan Gruber:
Yeah, so these Health Insurance Exchanges once you go on MA-HealthConnect.org and CRS [is] in Massachusettswill be these new shopping places. And theyll be the place that people go to get their subsidies for health insurance.
In the law it says [that] if States dont provide them, the federal backstop will. The Federal Government has been sort-of slow in putting in this backstop, I think partially, because they sort-of want to squeeze the States to do it.
I think whats important to remember politically about this is, if youre a State and you dont set up an exchange, that means your citizens dont get their tax credits. But your citizens still pay the taxes that support this bill.
So youre essentially saying to your citizens, 'Youre going to pay all the taxes [to] help all the other States in the country.'
I hope that thats a blatant enough political reality that the States will get their act together and realize that there are billions of dollars at stake here, in setting up these exchanges, and that theyll do it.
But, you know, once again, the politics can get ugly around this.
Dale Ahlquist | 2-20-2012 | American Chesterton Society Blog
G.K. Chesterton considered himself a member of the Liberal Party until 1912. As he would later say, he did not leave the Liberal Party. It left him. He believed in something called liberty, the idea that people should be able to make most decisions for themselves, especially the most basic and most important decisions, and not have such decisions made for them by anyone else, especially by the government. He believed, as a liberal, that the State’s role was to preserve liberty, not take it away.
What happened in 1912? The Liberal Party, which held power in Parliament, passed The Health Insurance Act. Every working man was required to have part of his wages withheld to pay for a national health insurance. The funding was to be further supplemented by a tax on every employer. Sound familiar?
Chesterton’s objections to the Insurance Act were threefold. First, it was anti-democratic in practice. The vast majority of the English population was against it. It was being passed against their will, butso the argument wentfor their own good. Second, it was anti-democratic in principle. It divided the populace into two permanent castes: those who labor, and those who pay for the labor. Chesterton called this what it is: slavery. Third, Chesterton saw the Act as paving the way to the State seizing more power, more influence, more interference in everyone’s daily lives. Sound familiar?
About a century later, here in America, we are looking at essentially the same thing that Chesterton was looking at. We watched as a National Health Care program was passed in utter defiance of public support, rammed through the legislative process by one party rather than by any sort of consensus. We have also watched the reinforcement of a system comprised of employers and employees, of wage-earners rather than independent, self-sufficient and truly “self-employed” citizens. And we have also watched the unimaginable growth of government as it has insinuated itself into every aspect of our lives.
One of Chesterton’s strongest objections to the Insurance Act was the increase in taxes to those who could scarcely afford to have any of their income taken from them, even if it was to be used for something specific like health care. The tax prevented a man from paying for other needs he had that might be just as important as medical care. He was being forced to pay for medical care that he might not need. What other things that he did not need would the State decide he must also pay for?
Chesterton pointed out that a compulsory Health Insurance Act was first passed in Germany. It followed another compulsory act that was also first passed in Germany: compulsory education. Chesterton was a vocal opponent of state-sponsored compulsory education, for the same reasons he was against a national health insurance. It was an attack on freedom. It gave the government too much power, and it took away a basic freedom from the citizen. The liberal argument was that the State was providing a valuable service. Chesterton’s counter-argument was that though the State was providing education, it was the State’s education. Though it was providing medicine, it was a forced medicine. With a compulsory insurance, he argued, people were being forced to pay to be protected against themselves. People are often willing to trade freedom for security. But the problem is that it is usually someone else trading our freedom for our security.
Although Chesterton found himself allied with the conservatives on the issue of health care, he might point out now that one of the reasons we have gotten into the present mess was that health care became an industry, controlled by large corporations rather than independent practitioners, and every industry tends to grow till it forms an alliance with big government. When health care started becoming too expensive, the solution was supposed to be health insurance. But insurance quickly made health care even more expensive. On the one hand, the medical industry stopped worrying about being affordable; on the other, a new layer of private bureaucracy and overhead was added that also needed to be paid for. Is there a solution? Yes. There is one drastic solution.
But sometimes issues of health require drastic measures. The health care system needs radical surgery. The honest thing to do is do away with health insurance. Doctors and hospitals and clinics should start selling a product that people can afford, and that they should not have to buy unless they actually need the product. It should not cost a thousand dollars to treat an ingrown toenail. But it does. It should not cost $30,000 to set a broken arm. But it does. Ours is a system that cannot be sustained. That is why the government feels justified to step in.
Chesterton prophesied this very scenario. He warns that the State cannot become a Universal Provider without becoming just another big shop. The one thing we’ve seen about big shops is that they collapse. We can avoid the big collapse if we start getting small again. We might even get healthy again.
Dale Ahlquist for the editorial board of Gilbert Magazine
*This editorial appeared in the April/May 2010 issue of Gilbert Magazine, which you can read in its entirety right here. This entry was posted in Elites on July 2
America: Beware of Single-Payer Health Care
The real lesson of the VA scandal.
W. James Antle III
June 9, 2014
Before Bowe Bergdahl dominated the headlines, the country was engrossed by the Veterans Affairs scandal. The VA was subjecting veterans to onerous wait times while massaging the data to show otherwise.
Much has been said about how poorly this reflects on President Obamas managerial prowess. Secretary Eric Shinseki, a hero of the last war, has already been forced to resign. And the conduct of the bureaucrats involved was, in Shinsekis own words, indefensible.
The real lesson of the VA scandal, however, is even more sobering. Its that a single-payer healthcare system would be a calamity in the United States. Given the political difficulty of enacting Obamacare, which mainly subsidizes private insurance, and the fact that Medicaid expansion stops well short of single-payer health care, discussing the possibility of a single-payer system may not seem terribly relevant.
Think again. Dr. Toby Cosgrove, formerly considered a front runner to take over Shinsekis post at the VA, predicted Obamacare would lead to single-payer health care. Donald Berwick, dubbed Obamacares founding CEO, is running on single-payer health care in his campaign for governor of Massachusetts, where Obamacare has destroyed the Romneycare system that spawned it.
Vermont is already trying to set up a single-payer system, if it can ever get a waiver from the federal government and come up with the extra $2 billion a year in revenues (compared to the $2.7 billion the state already raises annually) it would take to run it.
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/america-beware-single-payer-health-care-10625
Without the subsidies many of the insured probably aren’t eligible for Obamacare.
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