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One arrested after baby dies in hot car in S. Wichita
KWCH ^ | July 25, 2014 | Angela Smith

Posted on 07/25/2014 1:27:49 PM PDT by eccentric

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To: stanne

I’m over it. What I can’t believe is the violent hatred of these people for what is a mistake. A terrible mistake, but a mistake none the less. People saying they should do hard time. Come on. They aren’t hardened criminals.


81 posted on 07/25/2014 6:35:17 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Grams A

‘Children need to be in the front seat where parents can physically see them and comfort them when needed or spend time talking or singing to them...’

It is against the law in most states to have child in a front seat of a passenger car. In most states a baby MUST be in the back seat. Rear facing, in an infant seat until age 2. Children must be in safety or booster seats until age 8.


82 posted on 07/25/2014 6:40:54 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: savedbygrace

There was also a 5-year-old in the car in this case. Was this child in the front seat?


83 posted on 07/25/2014 6:43:12 PM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: RW_Whacko

’ How many less would there be if the parents were allowed to put the car seats in the front instead of the back where the babies fall asleep and they are easier to forget?’

The problem is that significantly more would die in traffic accidents even in a child safety seat as the front airbags and or damage is much greater in front seats.


84 posted on 07/25/2014 6:43:18 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

I’m not reading the posts

Hard time?

Sick

No

Could e focus on as a culture NOT GOVERNMENT! that parents are checked out


85 posted on 07/25/2014 6:52:16 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Jim from C-Town

I know what the law says but I also know that my children rode in the front seat where I could keep an eye on them and talk to them while we were driving. Of course that was before we had government interfering and mandating that we had to have air bags in the passenger seat.

They also rode in the back of their dad’s pick-up truck along with our two dogs.

I see absolutely nothing safe about a child in the back seat in a rear facing seat where you absolutely cannot keep an eye on them.

My children were also put to bed in a crib with slats, no bumper pads, on their stomach and with a blanket covering them. The horror of it all!


86 posted on 07/25/2014 6:54:30 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A
Well, I agree with everything you are saying. Never the less, if you have a kid in the front seat, it is a couple hundred dollar fine and a possible visit from DCFS. That is if you are caught. If there is an accident and the kid dies, manslaughter and everyone deriding you as a Gould of a parent.
87 posted on 07/25/2014 7:09:39 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: stanne

I agree they are checked out. But, our society is moving so fast that they are immune to most regular stimulus. Who doesn’t have a smart phone, two jobs, two mortgages, two car payments. People load themselves up with what they think are essentials and forget what is really important.


88 posted on 07/25/2014 7:12:49 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

They forget there’s an explanation to the creator at tge end


89 posted on 07/25/2014 7:15:37 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

They don’t care. Most people pay lip service to a deity if even that. It is all about them.

As a friend of mine said. Most people want their heaven here and now on Earth.


90 posted on 07/25/2014 7:25:57 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

That’s it


91 posted on 07/25/2014 7:27:42 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Jim from C-Town

I wouldn’t put any of my small grandchildren in the front seat with me now, not because of the fine issue but because of the airbag on the passenger’s side. My car was struck in the rear end while I was sitting at a stop light, my airbag on the driver’s side deployed and I ended up with two broken ribs and a punctured lung and I am a LOT larger than any small child.

But I do rail about government interference in our daily lives on a very, very regular basis to all of my reps and senators, both in Texas and in DC. The last email I sent to Senator Cornyn was about defining who should have access to the information generated by black boxes in cars. He responded thanking me for my concern about the national debt. Neither Washington D.C. nor Austin cares.


92 posted on 07/25/2014 7:53:41 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: mware

I now a lady who realizes she’s an air head. She’s worried she may forget her kid one day, so she threads the car seat belt through her purse strap in the back seat so she’ll never forget. I know another lady who always drives barefoot. She leaves her shoes in the back seat next to the baby. I doubt either one would ever forget their kids, but these stories scare them bad enough, they’ve taken proactive steps just to be sure.


93 posted on 07/25/2014 8:05:04 PM PDT by acad1228
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To: jjotto

But now with air bags, putting young children in the front seat is very dangerous. Children really are safer in the rear seats.


94 posted on 07/25/2014 8:42:26 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: eccentric

The story is certainly confusing, but my comment was a general idea about the issue of children being left in car seats in the back seat, not a comment on this particular case.


95 posted on 07/26/2014 8:39:23 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

With each passing year it happens more frequently. If there were appropriate punishment, I bet the parents would be less forgetful. And I’m sorry for the parents’ pain, but shouldn’t we focus more on the child?


96 posted on 07/27/2014 4:21:18 AM PDT by punknpuss
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To: punknpuss

‘If there were appropriate punishment, I bet the parents would be less forgetful.’

I highly doubt it. It is not intentional, punishment has no effect on unintentional acts.

Every one is focused on the child already. Especially the parent. In any other accident that kills a child the focus is also on the child, but sympathy for the parent is much more. In these instances the parents own forgetfulness is to blame making them even more heart broken.

You can not regulate against tragedy. regardless of punishment, they will happen. This type of tragedy is being completely blown out of proportion. Less than 3 dozen children a year die in this manner, whereas hundreds die every year drowning in buckets, bathtubs and even toilets. These tragedies all have an element of negligence as well.

Even if it where hundreds a year, it is a very small, microscopic even, percentage of the total population of children in a country of 300+ millions.

What punishment should we meet out to cause further anguish to the parent?


97 posted on 07/27/2014 8:20:43 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Cecily
People need to get the message that at a minimum they are going to do significant jail time if they allow this to happen, no matter what the excuse. Except for the truly stupid and drink/drug-addled, this type of negligence would probably come to an end quickly once adults realize they will face serious repercussions.

For most parents, I couldn't imagine repercussions more serious than knowing you were responsible for the agonizing death of your child. I doubt added prison time will be much of a deterrent.

98 posted on 07/27/2014 8:24:04 AM PDT by Drew68
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