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"I Shot Her Twice,She Best Be Dead!"
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| 24 July, 2014
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Posted on 07/24/2014 10:08:32 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
IF he pleads senility sayng he thought they were pro-life protesters, two months in an ankle bracelet.
And disability for the rest of his life for suffering from PTSD
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posted on
07/24/2014 10:20:04 AM PDT
by
Rashputin
(Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
To: MplsSteve
Dont get me wrong. I have zero sympathy for the dead perp. But it seems as though this incident went waaay beyond self-defense. I agree, and as a result I don't have a whole lot of sympathy to waste on him either. He made his decision and he'll have to take the consequences.
To: marktwain
If I were his attorney, I would argue that his mental state was affected by the beating the two criminals gave this man, and subsequently his fear for his life. I'd add in any previous history of his home being broken into or of robbery, violent or otherwise. His age would be an issue as well.
One can only expect so much of a citizen who believes his life is in danger. Adrenaline is a powerful hormone.
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posted on
07/24/2014 10:22:30 AM PDT
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: SkyDancer
Yeah... there aren't any good guys in this story.
However, one is reminded of that scene from the film "Gran Torino" in which Clint Eastwood says, "You know how every now and then you run into somebody you shouldn't have fxxxxd with? That's me."
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posted on
07/24/2014 10:22:55 AM PDT
by
Oberon
(John 12:5-6)
To: marktwain
If this went down as the article states, he’s in a world of trouble. They were no longer a threat to his person. Apparently he shot her in the back which indicates to me she was running away. If she was pregnant it will be worse for him.
As soon as they ran away he should have just called the cops.
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posted on
07/24/2014 10:23:44 AM PDT
by
waxer1
(A Republic if you can keep it--Benjamin Franklin. Well we lost it.)
To: MplsSteve
the guy pursued these people off his property
I understand your point but seriously, how fast can an 80 year old run?
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posted on
07/24/2014 10:24:28 AM PDT
by
Hot Tabasco
(By now, everyone should know that you shoot a zombie in the head. Don't try to reason with them...)
To: dirtboy
If someone had just beat you up and you fire at them when they finished, you’re the bad guy? No way. You would have an adrenaline rush, heat of passion or whatever, it ain’t over for you just because the perps took off running.
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posted on
07/24/2014 10:24:34 AM PDT
by
GeronL
(Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
To: DoodleDawg
He’s 80. Totally worth killing that vermin and getting her off the street for the rest of us. I salute him. Wish I could be on the jury.
To: GeronL
“If someone had just beat you up and you fire at them when they finished, youre the bad guy?”
According to the law in “most” states, yes. If the threat has abated, you cannot follow them into any alley, shoot one of them and listen to them beg, and shoot them again.
That is not self defense. That is an execution.
We are not supposed to do that here.
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posted on
07/24/2014 10:29:02 AM PDT
by
Vermont Lt
(If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
To: GeronL
His big mistake was blabbing his mouth about it.
Perhaps he meant to say “then the woman said “We’re running out to our car to get our gun to shoot you dead Old Man!””
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posted on
07/24/2014 10:29:52 AM PDT
by
MNDude
To: Vermont Lt
in the heat of the moment you can’t shoot a scumbag?
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posted on
07/24/2014 10:31:27 AM PDT
by
GeronL
(Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
To: marktwain
In the heat of the moment an 80 year old man shot at two fleeing criminals who had injured him enough to land in the hospital. There has to be a moral allowance for such action after an injury that gets your adrenaline pumping. Especially in a vulnerable 80 year old man who could have been hurt a lot worse than this duo hurt him
My prediction is he will be out $10,000 and more to lawyers but he will not be sent to jail. He will get probation
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posted on
07/24/2014 10:31:51 AM PDT
by
dennisw
(The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
To: MplsSteve
To: Vermont Lt
Well letting them run off and simply calling the cops who would never catch up to them by then just leaves these criminals to harm someone else. The old man had his life threatened by these punks and while he legally will be in trouble he performed a public service and saved a lot of future crimes and victims.
Maybe future pregnant lowlifes and their baby daddys will think twice before breaking into someone's private property and assaulting them.
To: GeronL
in the heat of the moment you cant shoot a scumbag? It'll be up to a jury to decide, but if it went down as described, no. It wasn't a legal shoot, at least in my state it wasn't. You can't shoot someone when they're running away. That's the law.
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posted on
07/24/2014 10:33:13 AM PDT
by
Oberon
(John 12:5-6)
To: marktwain
Regardless what truly happened, the smart play would've been to accentuate the appearance of being the victim of a violent crime and definitely tone down the bravado.
Anyone who blusters on about taking out a criminal using lethal force is asking for some trouble...good, bad or indifferent.
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posted on
07/24/2014 10:34:27 AM PDT
by
Jagdgewehr
(It will take blood.)
To: dennisw
Fine him ten dollars, he can mail it in.
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posted on
07/24/2014 10:35:27 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: dennisw
Not to mention if he puts his gun away and calls the cops the baby daddy could have reappeared and killed him.
Moral law takes into account causality. It was the premeditated actions of the criminals which led to someone's death.
To: EternalVigilance
She was also an assaulter and batterer as well as a theif.
“both robbers tackled him, “Both of them jumped up on top of me,” after they threw him to the ground”
To: marktwain
Well, I think it’s pretty clear that the shooter will (and should) be tried for murder.
But the good news is that the dead woman’s accomplice will likely face felony murder charges too.
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posted on
07/24/2014 10:39:06 AM PDT
by
Maceman
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