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‘We shot down MH17 thinking it was Ukrainian cargo plane’: Sensational admission by pro-Russian
The Daily Mail Online ^ | July 24, 2014 | John Hall

Posted on 07/24/2014 7:30:46 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

A pro-Russian separatist fighting in eastern Ukraine has admitted rebel forces shot down Malaysia Airlines flight MH17, it has been claimed.

The militant, who has not been identified, reportedly said fighters blasted the Boeing 777 out of the sky - killing all 298 people on board - after mistaking it for a Ukrainian government cargo plane.

He said the rebels only realised their mistake when they began searching the crash site for the parachutes of military crew who may have bailed out the aircraft, only to find the bodies of children.

The rebel - who worked locally as a miner before joining pro-Russian separatists - told a reporter for Italian newspaper Corriere Della Sera that officers initially told him MH17 was a government plane. 'We shot down a Kiev plane, our superiors told us. We thought we were looking for baled-out Ukrainian pilots but instead we found dead civilians,' he was quoted as saying.

'All those poor people with baggage that certainly wasn’t military... I was looking for a parachute and found the body of a little girl,' he added.

His sensational admission that rebel forces shot down MH17 is in stark contrast to other pro-Russian forces in the area, who remain insistent that the plane was taken down by government troops.

This morning Alexander Borodai, prime minister of the self-declared Donetsk People's Republic, described evidence suggesting rebels had possession of a BUK missile launcher as 'fake'.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cargo; globaljihad; mh17; shootdown; ukraine
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To: Uncle Chip

What does that have to do with what you asked for?

Also, are you now trying to deny that Drudge flashed that it may have been an attempt to shootdown Putin’s plane, in the hours after the shoot-down?


61 posted on 07/24/2014 11:29:38 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Uncle Chip

Avoiding providing proof of your accusation again, I see.
How unsurprising, since it is your M.O.

I have posted, numerous times, about the Russians supplying the rebels, so please stop lying. I do enjoy the laughter, but the wife is starting to ask questions about it.


62 posted on 07/24/2014 11:35:27 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: ansel12
"There is no doubt that you have a side, and are throwing out all kinds of nonsense and distractions in service to the enemy."

It is difficult to believe that you consider ignoring the history of similar wartime mistakes and fabricating or supporting loony conspiracy theories somehow advances conservative causes.

Just the opposite is true. Such activities repulse the political middle ground which is essential to winning elections.

"....you are backing them with internet propaganda".

WTF? I back people that have a positive influence on genuine conservatism, not the wacko "Kamikaze Conservatives". You are doing more harm than good.

63 posted on 07/24/2014 11:35:28 AM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Tragic—a victim of war. Putin should pull out and let Ukrain retake the “Rebelious states” or he should invade and make them part of the RF—one or the other. He needs to make a deal with Keiv—or fight a real war. In any case the questions need to be resolved one way or the other.


64 posted on 07/24/2014 11:47:50 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Buffalo Head

Just like the 60s, the pro-Russia crowd calls the West and NATO, and the free world, “the wacko “Kamikaze Conservatives”.


65 posted on 07/24/2014 11:49:16 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: tcrlaf

Why would you be so concerned with what Drudge flashed if you believed that the rebels accidentally shot it down???

Was that your standard misdirection attempt???


66 posted on 07/24/2014 11:52:14 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Now you are just being foolish. I asked if anything ever came of it, since I was out of contact for a while.

You are being purposefully obtuse, and are still refusing to back up your claims. It really is funny to watch.


67 posted on 07/24/2014 11:55:46 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“He needs to make a deal with Keiv”

A big part of the problem has been the coup government’s refusal to negotiate on anything. They said within hours of the signing of the Euro Accord that they were going to ignore it, they weren’t going to disarm the pro-Kiev militias.

There are forces at work in Kiev that have a big interest in seeing the war continue, and it is being driven by the anti-Russian hard-liners, with the support of the radical thugs.

Look at the fall of the government in Kiev today, driven by Svoboda, that some on FR keep telling us has “no influence, they are a small factor”. They also have the Right-Sector thugs strong-arming for them.


68 posted on 07/24/2014 12:01:58 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: RayChuang88
Pretty complicated panel.....but I suspect this guy for the Malaysia crash....he's a ruthless best of an Oligarch with his own militia army operating in the war theater....and he's out to claim what he figures is his and while doing so provoke war between Russia and the US. He gets what he wants within Ukraine politics by force and even creating "accidents" to remove opposition who won't play along...or create situations where foes battle one another....He would have the means to locate someone who could operate a Sam system, but may not know enough to use the detection equipment


69 posted on 07/24/2014 12:06:55 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

The Joooos did it.


70 posted on 07/24/2014 12:08:22 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: tcrlaf

Why would a ridiculous claim like that matter at all to someone who knew that the rebels shot it down.


71 posted on 07/24/2014 12:09:07 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: caww

hey Kevin Rothrock

The rebels have Russian military with them, they KNOW how to use their own SAM systems


72 posted on 07/24/2014 12:10:36 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Putin does not care how many he murders. Just look at Syria. Putin has kept that war going and doesn’t care at all about the thousands upons thousands he has murdered.


73 posted on 07/24/2014 12:12:57 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: tcrlaf

Is this your post:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3184132/posts#8

Just so you know, Khodakovsky is denying in Russian Media that he ever told Reuters anything about BUK’s.


74 posted on 07/24/2014 12:15:31 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: tcrlaf
If you observe the Kiev Parliament in session...how they bring their verbal points across...how they vote....they sound and look more like the old USSR administrations, as well as their behavior.

I don't think Kiev has much control of anything at all. This will continue to be a cluster of players and actions that are royally screwed up! Madness rules there both in the war theater and in it's Governance.

BTW...here's the new Prime Minster to replace Yats

Grosman is the new interim PM of Ukraine.......Former Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Regional Development, Construction, Housing and Utilities Economy Volodymyr Groisman (center)....second photo shows how Parliament appoints and creates resignations and replacements...this was yesterday's session


75 posted on 07/24/2014 12:17:36 PM PDT by caww
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To: tcrlaf

<>Avoiding providing proof of your accusation again<>

Here start with this:

Ukraine’s Security Council said on Wednesday preliminary information indicated that missiles which brought down two government fighter jets over eastern Ukraine were fired from Russia.

“Two of our jets were hit at an altitude of 5,200 metres. According to preliminary information, the missiles were launched from the territory of the Russian Federation,” the council said in a statement

http://www.trust.org/item/20140723154118-im9dy

Do we have a denial from the Kremlin yet???


76 posted on 07/24/2014 12:22:49 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
The original article by Lorenzo Cremonesi in Ukraine, hand-translated from Italian:

How Malaysian Plane was Shot Down

77 posted on 07/24/2014 12:27:06 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Uncle Chip

“the missiles were launched from the territory of the Russian Federation,””

If that were indeed true, I have no doubt the sat imagery of the launch from our satellites would already be plastered all over the networks.

We would know, within feet, of where a missile that large was launched from. That we haven’t released anything even remotely like that says a lot.

Remember, the Russians have already asked Obama to release that footage from the airliner shootdown, and we haven’t.


78 posted on 07/24/2014 12:28:51 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: knarf
Pretty astounding news.

What's astounding is that the separatist soldier freely related the story.

The exact story itself was known and discussed here the day of the crash.

79 posted on 07/24/2014 12:29:59 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Uncle Chip

I didn’t make the claim, Matt Drudge did. Maybe you should ask him about his “ridiculous” claim?


80 posted on 07/24/2014 12:30:22 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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