RUSSIANS RACE 32 MILES, FOE’S LINE SAGS; CHURCHILL FINDS GERMANY IS ‘CRUMBLING’ (7/24/44)

Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 7/24/44 | Raymond Daniell, Harold Denny, Drew Middleton, George F. Horne, Charles P. Arnot, Tillman Durdin

[Tax-chick]

Are you suggesting Capt. Henke didn’t want to face a post-war trial?

I noticed that article particularly because there were so few escapes or attempts (as a percentage) from POW camps in the U.S.

[Jacquerie]

In a similar vein, it took six months to secure Guadalcanal.

To my knowledge, it was the only Pacific series of battles in which more sailors than marines were KIA.

[colorado tanker]

Given the British slang I’ve heard he probably said “bugger” or “bastard.”

[colorado tanker]

The USS Colorado:

An oldie but goodie, her keel was laid in 1919. She was not at Pearl Harbor because she was being overhauled at Puget Sound Navy Yard. Used almost exclusively for shore bombardment, it has been said that the Colorado fired more 16" shells during WWII than any other ship.

The ship's bell is on display at the University of Colorado Memorial Center, also home of the Glenn Miller Ballroom and the Alferd Packer Restaurant and Grill, named for an early Colorado cannibal. (And that is the correct spelling of his name.)

[CPT Clay]

Great Map!!!

[henkster]

A lot of those German POWs found reasons to stay in the USA. My dad was a mechanical engineer who worked with a lot of plant engineers in the midwest. He knew a couple of plant engineers who had been German POWs in the US.

I understand the 57,000 Germans who marched throught the streets of Moscow last week had a much different experience.

[Tax-chick]

We saw construction done by Italian POWs in Oklahoma. Some of them came back after the war. Oklahoma is not exactly the economic hub of the nation, but compared to postwar Italy ...

[fso301]

Speaking of honor, I was listening to my World War II lectures while cutting up vegetables earlier, and the lecturer mentioned the suicide of Saito and Nagumo on Saipan. The "cult of suicide," as he said, is really making a comeback these days. It makes me think we're regressing as a society.

One thing historians are loathe to do is frame WWII as a religious war.

[Steven Scharf]

“I noticed that article particularly because there were so few escapes or attempts (as a percentage) from POW camps in the U.S.”

Escape to where? The USA is a big country with two big ponds intbetween. No going North as they were with us.

I have read most were happy to get out of the action and the Wiki page on US POW camps notes they were not bad place to hangout for a year or so.

[Tax-chick]

Escape to where?

Exactly. If you're in Oklahoma and escape from the camp, where are you going to go?

[Tax-chick]

Nazis and Japanese weren’t hesitant.