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Creationist Ken Ham: Aliens Will Go to Hell; So Really, Why Fund NASA?
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Posted on 07/23/2014 1:15:49 PM PDT by chessplayer

“NASA is Pointless, Declares Creationist” may be a rather obvious headline, but Ken Ham took it one step further and declared why NASA is pointless: because they’re searching for extraterrestrial life, and according to the Bible, aliens are going to go to hell anyways, so why even bother?

“Jesus did not become the ‘GodKlingon’ or the ‘GodMartian’!” he declared in a Sunday column on his website, Answering Genesis. “Only descendants of Adam can be saved.”

(Ham) You see, the Bible makes it clear that Adam’s sin affected the whole universe. This means that any aliens would also be affected by Adam’s sin, but because they are not Adam’s descendants, they can’t have salvation.

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To: chessplayer

He obviously has not read C.S.Lewis.


41 posted on 07/23/2014 1:57:51 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: Chaguito

He does posit a contingency in accord with his disbelief in aliens. There are many who disbelieve. He then argues against that contingency, saying in so many words that, if there are aliens, they would not be included as necessary object for evangelism, much as it is for angels. I am not a disciple of Ken Ham, but understand him to lend authority to the biblical texts as the basis for his lines of thought. The source quoting him here should be considered an uncooperative, if not hostile, witness. The general subject is one that has so many people speculating in vain that it distracts from the simpler matter of being a good neighbor and trusting God for all that is good.


42 posted on 07/23/2014 2:00:59 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (Even the compassion of the wicked is cruel.)
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To: chessplayer

Why search for Aliens ?? Because they taste like Chicken. . . (evil grin)


43 posted on 07/23/2014 2:01:09 PM PDT by Salgak (Peace through Superior Firepower. . . .)
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To: MrB

I don’t have any interest in intelligent life or whether they’ve been saved. God created the entire universe and if he created it for us to spread across, that’s even better.


44 posted on 07/23/2014 2:02:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: NorthMountain
North Mountain @39: For another thing, if extraterrestrial aliens exist, we need to know if they think WE make good eatin' ... with or without BBQ sauce ...

That might be a good reason not to transmit electromagnetic signals into outer space - which some aliens might interpret as supermarket daily specials or fast-food ads.

45 posted on 07/23/2014 2:04:00 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Night Hides Not

It sounds to me like Ham is afraid of finding out some day that God hasn’t limited Himself to just this one planet in the vast universe.


46 posted on 07/23/2014 2:05:47 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: cripplecreek

He said “fill the earth”.
If He’d said “fill all of creation”, now THAT would be a “mandate”!

Fill the earth is tough enough, but I’m doing my part.


47 posted on 07/23/2014 2:05:50 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: chessplayer

Actually, he’s not “afraid” at all.
He’s just taking God at His Word.


48 posted on 07/23/2014 2:06:23 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Carl Vehse

"I'll have a Roast Kardashian, please, with a side of Parishilton ..."

49 posted on 07/23/2014 2:09:28 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

It could be the eternal post earth life is on the distant planet

The aliens are us


50 posted on 07/23/2014 2:12:02 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: chessplayer

If there are aliens a billion light years away, isn’t it a safe bet God created “them” too? Maybe this guy has a counter-part “out there” saying we are all going to hell here on Earth.


51 posted on 07/23/2014 2:14:40 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: chessplayer

If the universe is geocentric, then space would be “up” - in which case, the universe is part of the lower heavens. Technically, wouldn’t that make any “alien” really a kind of “angel” - i.e., an inhabitant of the heavens? And if so, they had their choice for or against God long ago. In which case, there is no salvation for those who chose against God.


52 posted on 07/23/2014 2:16:24 PM PDT by Miles the Slasher
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To: WayneS

IF intelligent alien life exists, how can this man be so sure that God did not send them their own savior to save them from their sins?


True.


53 posted on 07/23/2014 2:16:31 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: WayneS

you’re welcome

i would further add that the Bible does not prohibit man from going into space... indeed it even appears to envision all of creation as being intended for our use,

Psalms 8:3,6; Deuteronomy 4:19

anyway, I am happy we are exploring space... there’s so much yet to discover and learn about God’s amazing Creation....


54 posted on 07/23/2014 2:18:16 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: reg45

Well, if they have immortal souls, that is. We don’t even know if good old Rover will make it to heaven, why would we assume aliens will?


55 posted on 07/23/2014 2:22:15 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Mercat
Lucifer does not rule in hell. He is the prince of this world only. Hell was made as a place of punishment for Lucifer and his fallen angels and will also punish those who follow Lucifer. Ken Ham does not believe in intelligent aliens because of all the issues about sin,salvation and a recent creation not just of the earth but of the entire universe. In less than 10 thousand years no other life is likely to have evolved. Could God have created plant and animal life on other planets? Yes and if so they, like the animals on earth suffer because of man's sin. The Bible! says that all of creation was adversely effected by Adam’s sin. All await the return of Jesus with justice and mercy. No aliens, Jesus' incarnation as a human being and recent creation are complementary ideas.
56 posted on 07/23/2014 2:24:39 PM PDT by cotton
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To: DoughtyOne

“I see no Biblical reference to it being a sin to launch out into space in exploration.

If man can find ways to inhabit space, he should do it. It’s a survivalist endeavor.

The human race would be stupid not to try to ensure that it survives a planet killer.”

Why would we need to try to escape to space to avoid that disaster, when we can escape it right here on earth, by simply giving ourselves to Christ?


57 posted on 07/23/2014 2:25:35 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: chessplayer

Actually, Christ said most people on earth are going to hell and few are going to heaven.

Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

The Apostle Paul also taught us this:

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

We’re saved by faith, and faith comes by hearing the Word of God. Anyone who never hears the Word of God definitionally can never be saved.


58 posted on 07/23/2014 2:26:10 PM PDT by afsnco
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To: rich4004

So when the aliens arrive (and I don’t mean the illegals from south of the border) you will be there with Quix and call them demons from hell masquerading as aliens?


59 posted on 07/23/2014 2:32:29 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: bert

Sounds a bit LDS, but hey it might turn out that they were right after all.


60 posted on 07/23/2014 2:33:19 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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