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Will John Roberts Decide a 'State' Is Not a 'State'?
CNS News ^ | 7/23/2014 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 07/23/2014 2:00:14 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: markomalley

How can the federal government, empowered as the central government, also be a state which does not carry such authority? Because IF the feds can be considered states, then the states can by the same logic (or lack there of) exorcise the same authority as the federal government.


21 posted on 07/23/2014 5:11:58 AM PDT by nomad
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To: bert
Isn’t the word in question “states”? That would eliminate the alleged ambiguity

Good point. Then "it's just a typo" becomes a possible argument. They'd have to go back to some of the floor debate to divine the intent of Congress (when really it's the intent of the staffers and the outside leftist organizations who wrote the law).

22 posted on 07/23/2014 5:12:25 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Wolfie
A corporation’s a person and money is speech, so anything’s possible.

A corporation is nothing more than a group of people banding together for common purpose and legal protections.

Money is an essential part of free speech in that freedom of the press to print what you want is irrelevant if the government can prevent you from buying the printing press in the first place.

23 posted on 07/23/2014 5:12:44 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: kevkrom

(on the left, they think of it as a simple “typo” and on the right, there’s some glee over “finding out what’s in it after it’s passed”).
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They both see it as bread and circuses ,, a tug of war that can go on forever ... all the while their subjects remain bound and are too stupid to see that they’re being played by both sides.


24 posted on 07/23/2014 5:25:28 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: markomalley
What's really absurd is that Americans are allowing a bunch of people in black robes to make up law as they go along.

Most of these above-us-alls were installed by other above-us-alls.

And when a pack of black robes can overturn the will of a state's voters, what they say no longer matters to me.
25 posted on 07/23/2014 5:27:17 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: markomalley

The adminitration will request that the full court vote on it. The administration will be upheld since Democrats appointed most of the judged. It’ll be appealed to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court will decide not to hear it.


26 posted on 07/23/2014 5:33:37 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: kevkrom

As I said...anything is possible.


27 posted on 07/23/2014 5:39:09 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: markomalley

"It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices."

--- SCOTUS Chief Justice John Roberts
28 posted on 07/23/2014 5:41:09 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: markomalley

This is why I refer to it as 0bamaRobertsCare.

0bama created it but Roberts sanctioned it. Roberts should get equal billing and equal blame for 0bamaRobertsCare.


29 posted on 07/23/2014 8:20:55 AM PDT by citizen (There is always free government cheese in the mouse trap.....https://twitter.com/kracker0)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A blackmail victim who remain silent and does the bidding of the blackmailer is every bit as guilty as the blackmailer.


30 posted on 07/23/2014 8:22:52 AM PDT by citizen (There is always free government cheese in the mouse trap.....https://twitter.com/kracker0)
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To: MinuteGal

Every time someone does something they don’t agree with they talk of threats, blackmail, etc.
I’m with you. I don’t think it’s required when they just have no compass. Maybe that is hard for some people to accept so they make up excuses.
To me everything is as it seems.....not a conspiracy.


31 posted on 07/23/2014 8:55:45 AM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana; X-spurt

We were talking yesterday about the Origination Clause and Roberts waiting for it - and standing - to work its way through the courts and back to him.


32 posted on 07/23/2014 9:02:19 AM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: markomalley

Roberts will rule that the Federal Government is a state since it has a State Department.


33 posted on 07/23/2014 9:05:19 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: txhurl

I don’t think Roberts is waiting for anything. It is what it is. He believes in it. He could have shot it down the first time instead of bending his logic into a pretzel to support it.


34 posted on 07/23/2014 9:08:26 AM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana

The only thing Roberts believes in is himself.

He is being blackmailed.


35 posted on 07/23/2014 9:10:09 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: sheana

I dunno.... he causes botch of zero’s swearing in multiple times... declares SCOTUS isn’t responsible to fix idiot voters’ mistakes..


36 posted on 07/23/2014 9:12:55 AM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: Drago

Public Health Service Act of 1944.

If relevant context of termss used in ACA extends past the ACA to other acts, then by the ssame logic a “State” must mean a State as defined in all those other acts.

Hopefully Halbig plaintiffs can have some fun and quote this in their upcoming appellate filings...


37 posted on 07/24/2014 11:30:35 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: markomalley

The Fed is not a state. It exists because the states allow it to exist.


38 posted on 07/25/2014 9:05:14 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Your feelings don't trump my free speech!)
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