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Will John Roberts Decide a 'State' Is Not a 'State'?
CNS News ^ | 7/23/2014 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 07/23/2014 2:00:14 AM PDT by markomalley

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1 posted on 07/23/2014 2:00:14 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

They’re blackmailing him in some way. Someday it will all come out.


2 posted on 07/23/2014 2:03:46 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: markomalley

To paraphrase Bill Clinton, John Roberts may well say “it depends upon what the meaning of ‘by’ is”.

The language of the law is quite clear and unambiguous to any honest person. To those who want to change it, they can simply say the logical equivalent of “inside now means outside” to arrive at their desired end. It’s amazing how far the Republic has fallen.


3 posted on 07/23/2014 2:05:32 AM PDT by House Atreides (ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN FOR CHILDERS 2014 .... Don't reward bad GOPe behavior.)
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To: House Atreides

What Republic?


4 posted on 07/23/2014 2:11:18 AM PDT by Bullish (You ever notice that liberalism really just amounts to anti-morality?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Research the background of his children and how he adopted them. There are lots of suspicions there.


5 posted on 07/23/2014 2:21:46 AM PDT by Truth29
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I’d heard that. What high-ranking official takes such a risk?


6 posted on 07/23/2014 2:27:57 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Obamacare ruling destroyed Roberts for me.

The Left claimed no new taxation was being implemented.

So Robert ignored the right and the left, to create a new tax.

What a maroon!


7 posted on 07/23/2014 2:35:56 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Think how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are stupider than that.)
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So Robert ignored the right and the left, to create a new tax.

One that originated in the Senate, no less! (Constitutionally, revenue measures must originate in the House.)

8 posted on 07/23/2014 2:47:10 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Another good point...


9 posted on 07/23/2014 2:58:06 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Think how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are stupider than that.)
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Obama’s HHS just argued this week that the term “state” allows them to exclude territories (Guam, Puerto Rico, etc.) from the ACA/Obamacare: “The definition of “state” in the Public Health Service Act indicates that the ACA market rules don’t apply to the territories, HHS wrote.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/17/the-administration-just-took-obamacare-away-from-the-territories/


10 posted on 07/23/2014 3:16:40 AM PDT by Drago
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Most likely his less than legal adoption of his children from Ireland.

Or a gay thing.


11 posted on 07/23/2014 3:55:50 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: markomalley

Roberts illegally adopted some foreign kids.
Obammy blackmailed the dirt bag in to going along with his schemes.
Roberts along with nearly everyone in D.C. are leaches.


12 posted on 07/23/2014 4:04:18 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They’re blackmailing him in some way. Someday it will all come out.
It's his adopted children...check it out.
13 posted on 07/23/2014 4:05:45 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ($$$$$$$$ DEFUND OBAMA! $$$$$$$$$)
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To: markomalley

A corporation’s a person and money is speech, so anything’s possible.


14 posted on 07/23/2014 4:40:45 AM PDT by Wolfie
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See, we had to pass it to find out what’s in it..... /sarc


15 posted on 07/23/2014 4:47:41 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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Well, clearly the Federal government is "the State", especially to Democrats Is that the same as a state that is a component of the United States? No, but that wouldn't stop them from twisting the language.

Maybe the issue will hinge on the specificity of Section 1311 versus 1321. There's no ambiguity in the numbers.

Do the Courts ever presume typos?

16 posted on 07/23/2014 4:57:42 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Isn’t the word in question “states”? That would eliminate the alleged ambiguity


17 posted on 07/23/2014 5:01:08 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: markomalley

I’ve been suspicious of Roberts and Alito since Bush appointed them..

Bush made Obama possible.. and the Bush’s have always been One Worlders.. ALL of them..
AND stealth democrats..


18 posted on 07/23/2014 5:03:24 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: markomalley; mickie; pax_et_bonum; Maine Mariner; flaglady47
I'm so tired of the excuses made on behalf of John Roberts for his despicable decision....excuses that he was blackmailed...or that he's gay....or whatever.

I afford him NO excuses. To me, his decision was purposeful...and was engendered by an obvious legal and moral failing in his character....nothing more, nothing less.

He made a choice....and it was just plain wrong...and harmful to the nation (HIS nation, also)....in a myriad of injurious ways as we are seeing every day.

He, and he alone, is at fault...and he, alone, bears the responsibility and the censure.

Leni

19 posted on 07/23/2014 5:03:36 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: markomalley

There are quite a few people, left and right, who are calling the language of the bill a “mistake” (on the left, they think of it as a simple “typo” and on the right, there’s some glee over “finding out what’s in it after it’s passed”).

That’s incorrect. It was intentional, and done on purpose to get the CBO scoring of the bill’s 10-year cost to be less than the arbitrary target of $1 trillion. The thinking at the time was that they’d pass the bill within the limits they publicly proclaimed, and then “fix” the “errors” after the fact when no one was paying attention to the price tag.

But something funny happened on the way to that result - the Democrats lost their filibuster-proof majority in the Senate and now could no longer make any changes to the version the Senate passed, but couldn’t pass any “fix” bills that would follow.

Now, of course, the left is clamoring for what the left always does: to demand that the court impose through fiat what they were unable to do via legislation.


20 posted on 07/23/2014 5:10:09 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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