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CEO of the US, politicians need NOT apply
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Posted on 07/21/2014 1:31:21 PM PDT by simka

We do not need Hillary or Warren or any career politician. We do not need another leader in debt to big business, financial backers or his party agenda. We do need someone truly independent of all political pressures, capable of resolving all the damage done to this country. The names that come to mind are Ben Carson, Mitt Romney and maybe Ted Cruz. What say you all?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 2016; crony; debt; entitlement; libertarian; romney; taxes; tedcruz
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To: Responsibility2nd
I’d sooner support a RINO than a liberal like Johnson or Paul.

Which is PRECISELY why we're in the mess we currently find ourselves in. Now I know who to thank for the desecration of my beloved Constitution and Country.

41 posted on 07/21/2014 2:05:27 PM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: dware

From Gary Johnson’s wiki-page: “In 1976 he founded Big J Enterprises”. No doubt short for Big Johnson. LOL!


42 posted on 07/21/2014 2:06:20 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: GeronL; dware; wagglebee

Hey dware.

In addition to being pro-dope and pro-abortion; He is also not Pro-God. He has said that he does not “seek the counsel of God” when determining his political agenda.

When you contrast his beliefs and values with us conservatives here at FR...

As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc. We also oppose the United Nations or any other world government body that may attempt to impose its will or rule over our sovereign nation and sovereign people. We believe in defending our borders, our constitution and our national sovereignty.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1103363/posts

How in the WORLD can you support an idiot like Johnson who is 100% opposite of conservativism?


43 posted on 07/21/2014 2:07:22 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Conservatives really need a new party... The GOP punch bowl has lost its appeal with the uniparty entrenched establishment and all the Paulbots/Johnson libs diluting any remaining conservative flavor.


44 posted on 07/21/2014 2:09:22 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Responsibility2nd

Today the term I keep using is “Libertarian socialism”. I was waiting for someone to say those were contrary and mutually exclusive.

I’m still waiting.

Libertarian Socialism as an actual ideology has been around for centuries across the country. They had a huge part in the Russian revolution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism

or

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_Marxism


45 posted on 07/21/2014 2:09:35 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: dware

Then why bother discussing politics at all?


46 posted on 07/21/2014 2:10:28 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: dware; wagglebee

I don’t rightly care what man has to say on the subject.

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You don’t care that 50 million Americans have died as a result of our American Holocaust? If abortion came to a vote, you would just stay home?


47 posted on 07/21/2014 2:12:39 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: simka
This is correct, except for Mitt Romney and Dr. Carson.

Cruz is it. Sadly, Rand Paul has excluded himself with some of his actions.

48 posted on 07/21/2014 2:18:49 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: simka
"We do not need Hillary or Warren or any career politician. We do not need another leader in debt to big business, financial backers or his party agenda."

That would be accomplished by way of an amendment to end political contributions from employee unions and corporations. Strangely, though, the Occupy movement people are proposing exactly that.

Meanwhile, the Republican opposition against Occupy is pushing for a constitutional convention controlled by state and local government employees and influential constituents to eventually pass an amendment to allow state and local unions (through their state politicians) to more easily amend the Constitution (re. Levin, _The Liberty Amendments_, Article V convention herd).

And come to find out, most of the big contributor organizations by far in both political parties are comprised of people receiving their incomes directly or indirectly from state, local or federal government. Things are really messed up. There are no real conservatives except outsiders--mostly poorly employed.


49 posted on 07/21/2014 2:36:16 PM PDT by familyop ("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" --"Deacon," "Waterworld")
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To: simka

Right now the only ones I’d REALLY support are Cruz, Pence, and Palin. I like Ben Carson, but he can be led, if you know what I mean. He has some great ideas, but he’s like Rubio in some areas where steadfastness is demanded. I want someone the demos would absolutely fear. I think Sarah is the No.1 in that field, with Cruz a close second. But Mike Pence is a great guy, as well.


50 posted on 07/21/2014 2:39:57 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: simka
"CEO of the US"

Very interesting, especially in light of corporate linguistic revisionism. Administrators have been striving for speech to make them appear to be more generally authoritative with titles like "Chief Executive Officer" instead of "Company President." Many titles have also been made ridiculously wordy.


51 posted on 07/21/2014 2:42:08 PM PDT by familyop ("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" --"Deacon," "Waterworld")
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To: dware

i agree the ones i know here in pa are very conservative. and walk the walk.


52 posted on 07/21/2014 2:52:03 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: simka
Ben Carson has no executive experience. Mittens Romney was a bad choice in 2012, and he hasn't gotten any better. Cruz, maybe.
53 posted on 07/21/2014 2:55:37 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (Book: Resistance to Tyranny. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: dware; GeronL; Responsibility2nd; Dr. Brian Kopp; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; ...
In God's eyes, it [abortion] already is [illegal]. I don't rightly care what man has to say on the subject.

What is this but another way of saying, "I'm personally opposed, but..."?

An innocent American is murdered EVERY 24 SECONDS and you "don't rightly care what man has to say on the subject."

This is the inherent evil of libertarianism. Libertarians CLAIM to be all about liberty, but in reality they are in favor of permissibility whereby people are free to do whatever they choose with no regard whatsoever to morality.

Let me guess, you probably think it's just fine for two members of the same sex to "marry" each other?

54 posted on 07/22/2014 6:01:59 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
people are free to do whatever they choose with no regard whatsoever to morality.

I never said that.

An innocent American is murdered EVERY 24 SECONDS

And if I had my way, the murderers would suffer a similar fate. But I won't get my way with it, and thus my only comfort is in knowing that they will suffer a fate far more terrible and just than you or I could ever dish out.

Let me guess, you probably think it's just fine for two members of the same sex to "marry" each other?

Long before governments were instituted among men, God ordained marriage as being between a man and a woman. Therefore, I don't see how any laws, either allowing or forbidding "same sex marriage" changes the fact that God ordained marriage as being between a man and a woman. Nothing man does will change that.

55 posted on 07/22/2014 6:51:57 AM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: dware; GeronL; Responsibility2nd; Dr. Brian Kopp; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; ...
And if I had my way, the murderers would suffer a similar fate. But I won't get my way with it, and thus my only comfort is in knowing that they will suffer a fate far more terrible and just than you or I could ever dish out.

It seems that you employ verbosity to accomplish evasiveness.

Let's try to make it easier:
Should abortion be illegal under the laws of the United States of America? YES or NO

Long before governments were instituted among men, God ordained marriage as being between a man and a woman. Therefore, I don't see how any laws, either allowing or forbidding "same sex marriage" changes the fact that God ordained marriage as being between a man and a woman. Nothing man does will change that.

More evasiveness. Do you believe that same-sex people should be allowed to legal be married (in the eyes of state or federal law)? YES or NO

56 posted on 07/22/2014 6:57:46 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
The only way I could make it any clearer would be to draw a picture for you. I can do that, but I would need some additional time.

Should abortion be ILLEGAL in the US of A? Well, if you believe in God and His Word, then no. If you propose to usurp God's power, then yes. Same for "same sex marriage". Was that simple enough for you to understand, or should I bust out the crayons?

57 posted on 07/22/2014 7:30:01 AM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: dware; GeronL; Responsibility2nd; Dr. Brian Kopp; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; ...
The only way I could make it any clearer would be to draw a picture for you. I can do that, but I would need some additional time.

Yet you still seem unwilling to answer simple yes or no questions.

Why all the obfuscation?

Should abortion be ILLEGAL in the US of A? Well, if you believe in God and His Word, then no. If you propose to usurp God's power, then yes. Same for "same sex marriage".

So, you believe that making abortion and same-sex "marriage" illegal is usurping God's power? You want people to be completely free to kill as many babies as they want, because stopping them would be usurping God. Why stop with abortion, why not legalize all forms of murder?

Yet another libertarian ploy to legalize EVERYTHING under the absurd hypothesis that mankind shouldn't make laws. Anything goes and God will judge us in the end, just another illustration that libertarianism is nothing more than anarchy.

58 posted on 07/22/2014 7:38:57 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
just another illustration that libertarianism is nothing more than anarchy.

Wrong again. You're on a roll. If you really, truly cared, you'd do some homework to learn the truth. It's obvious you care only to support your incorrect idea of what you think is true.

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams

Abortion and same sex marriage would not be an issue under a moral society. Best check yourself before you wreck the Founder's vision for America.

59 posted on 07/22/2014 7:50:12 AM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: wagglebee; dware

Dware is caught in a typical liberaltarian trap.

1. Starts off talking big for a pro-abortion, pro-dope, anti-God liberal politician and gets called on it.

2. Realizes that if he keeps up his true agenda following his true anti-conservative ideas; he’ll get the zot.

3. Starts being evasive and talking in circles.

4. This is what liberals (libertarians) do. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.


60 posted on 07/22/2014 7:52:03 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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