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Russia dismisses accusations Ukrainian separatists shot down Flight MH17 [it's not their fault]
France 24/AFP ^ | 7-21-2014 | AFP

Posted on 07/21/2014 8:20:29 AM PDT by tcrlaf

Russia’s Defence Ministry dismissed accusations on Monday that pro-Russia separatists in Ukraine’s east were at fault for shooting down a Malaysia Airlines jet last week, alleging instead that Ukrainian warplanes had been flying close to the plane.

The ministry also denied accusations that Russia had supplied the separatists with SA-11 Buk anti-aircraft missile systems – which are known as “Gadfly” in NATO – or “any other weapons.”

“Russian air space control systems detected a Ukrainian Air Force plane, presumably an SU-25 (fighter jet), scrambling in the direction of the Malaysian Boeing,” Lieutenant-General Igor Makushev of Russia’s Air Forces told a news briefing. “The distance of the SU-25 plane from the Boeing was from 3 to 5 kilometres (2 to 3 miles).”

The ministry’s comments came as the Netherlands announced that prosecutors had opened an investigation into the crash of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17, which claimed the lives of all 298 people on board, 193 of whom were Dutch citizens

(Excerpt) Read more at france24.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: civilwar; mh17; russia; ukraine; ukrainianrussianwar
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To: Longbow1969

“Man, the only people that believe these Russian conspiracies about what “really” happened are some assorted Putinistas”

Agencie France Press are “Putinistas”?
WHO KNEW!!!


81 posted on 07/21/2014 9:51:01 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: canuck_conservative
Stop with your pro-Russian crap, we’re all sick of it.

Speak for your self. Seems most of the crap is coming from life long, no matter the facts, Russia bashers. TCRLAF is one of the few on FR that is making any sense.

82 posted on 07/21/2014 9:51:15 AM PDT by duckln
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To: duckln; All
Pssst- Don't tell the haters and Obama, but the Dutch already have a forensics team inspecting the bodies, and where they are at. Pic from Canadian Broadcasting via Twitter:
83 posted on 07/21/2014 9:58:12 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: canuck_conservative

84 posted on 07/21/2014 9:58:28 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
It takes time to investigate such things

And of course before that can happen the criminals need time to remove all the evidence from the crime scene, right???

in an active war zone

But it wouldn't be an active war zone if Putin's puppets would withdraw from the shootdown site.

the bodies which were taken to the nearby community morgue initially have also been handed over to the authorities in charge.

That's awfully nice of them -- why were they taken in the first place when the others went to the refrigeration cars. Were some scheduled to be baked while others frozen???

We will know soon enough what took down the plane, where it fired from and who ordered and fired the weapon

Where have you been -- we already know that and you do too.

Meanwhile rumors and speculations, and blame will continue and escalate before it calms down enough for people to have a general idea what happened.

You must be referring to Russia Today there and Pravda and your posts and those of the other Putinistas.

85 posted on 07/21/2014 9:59:18 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: tcrlaf

What’s the date of that photo, versus the date of the crash? You left out that small detail.


86 posted on 07/21/2014 10:02:57 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: canuck_conservative

Well then why do an investigation since you have all the proof? Sheesh, seems to me I haven’t seen your face over there on the ground....nor gathering evidence...nor on the teams of those who are doing so with the airline material itself...nor examining the evidence already in hand.

Basing your opinion on news reports can be dangerous .....best to wait until the actual teams investigating are completed.

Either or the outcome will be according to who does the reporting...all parties have their hands on deck in that respect....and will frame it accordingly.


87 posted on 07/21/2014 10:03:50 AM PDT by caww
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To: tcrlaf

How about Dutch and Malaysian Troops.

Your buddies committed a terrorist act and if they lose control of territory in the process as meals on wheels pulls up to feed their enemies, then that is a price the Putin’s terrorists of Donetsk have to pay.

They pulled the trigger, they pay the price.


88 posted on 07/21/2014 10:03:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: duckln

I especially like the unsourced Twitter updates, and articles from RT sourcing kook websites.


89 posted on 07/21/2014 10:04:30 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: dforest
I think the punishment can wait for investigation.

And what punishment would that be -- the West taking away the dead bodies the terrorists want to hold onto???

90 posted on 07/21/2014 10:06:30 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

You must be behind on the latest news.


91 posted on 07/21/2014 10:07:44 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dforest

The latest news is that the bodies still haven’t been returned.


92 posted on 07/21/2014 10:09:47 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: 1rudeboy

“What’s the date of that photo”

Early this morning, local time.


93 posted on 07/21/2014 10:10:07 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
Pssst- Don't tell the haters and Obama, but the Dutch already have a forensics team inspecting the bodies

Finally after 4 days of the Dutch asking the terrorists of Donetsk to let them in.

94 posted on 07/21/2014 10:11:06 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: tcrlaf

Ok, so three days late? or four?


95 posted on 07/21/2014 10:11:58 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“The latest news is that the bodies still haven’t been returned.”

The latest is from CNN.
Rebels released the bodies to the Dutch team, and they are being sent by train to Kharkov, where they will be loaded onto a plane and returned to the Netherlands.

They are talking about it right now.


96 posted on 07/21/2014 10:12:12 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Hey, tovarisch, are you sure you want to get distracted by this whole dead bodies issue? Fighting has erupted in central Donetsk. Shouldn’t you be covering that?


97 posted on 07/21/2014 10:12:34 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Uncle Chip
Hey, don't you follow the latest news? The Dutch are there now.
/spin
98 posted on 07/21/2014 10:12:49 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: duckln
Speak for your self. Seems most of the crap is coming from life long, no matter the facts, Russia bashers.

Concurring bump.

99 posted on 07/21/2014 10:13:44 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Do you not want the bodies to be returned? Looks like they will be.


100 posted on 07/21/2014 10:14:37 AM PDT by dforest
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