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Malaysian passenger plane crashes in Ukraine near Russian border: Ifax
Reuters ^ | 17 July 2014 | Alissa de Carbonne

Posted on 07/17/2014 8:24:22 AM PDT by CMB_polarization

A Malaysian passenger airliner with 295 people on board crashed in Ukraine near the Russian border, Interfax cited an aviation industry source as saying on Thursday.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aviation; crash; malaysia; malaysianairlines; mh17; mh370; reset; russia; ukraine
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To: lodi90

Putin is not our friend


361 posted on 07/17/2014 10:56:27 AM PDT by Rome2000
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To: Cementjungle
....”Obama’s media (which includes Shep Smith) wants this to be the separatists/terrorists. Expect a lot of assumptions being voiced in that direction unless/until someone can prove without a doubt that it was someone else”....

Yes, already started...Poroshenko made statement...”Terrorists are to blame”. I suspect this is the now news which we'll hear ....

None of the players want escalation in Ukraine to heighten more than it already has from this.

362 posted on 07/17/2014 10:56:50 AM PDT by caww
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To: Sacajaweau

Well, I suppose a civilian airliner here or there is ok, then. /s


363 posted on 07/17/2014 10:56:58 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Plane was flying in a restricted area “unsuitable for civilian aircraft”

It's Malaysian Airlines -- they are known to take the scenic route from time to time.

They can't be expected to stay on course all the time.

364 posted on 07/17/2014 10:57:08 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: catfish1957
LMAO!!!!..... That may be the most incorrect analogy I have heard in my life here at FR. Are you saying you admire Obama more???????? Come on, come clean.......

Obama has been a much stronger leader than Putin. He has advanced his agenda against stubborn GOP opposition, and he has done it without being able to resort to political killings or imprisoning his opponents, as Putin has done. Obama's not getting involved abroad because his whole philosophy is to let foreigners pay for their own security problems while he creates his part-socialist, part-crony capitalist paradise here at home. Obama vs Putin is like the Godfather vs a common gangbanger. Obama is effectively ruling like a king, and the GOP can't lay a glove on him. From the Romanovs to the Bolsheviks thru the post-Bolshevik era, Russians have always been ruled by kings. Obama has managed to acquire imperial powers among a people accustomed to self-rule. That's a much bigger feat than anything Putin has done.

365 posted on 07/17/2014 10:57:42 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: All

An aviation expert has told the BBC it is unlikely that anyone survived the crash. Peter Felsted, the editor of Jane’s Defence Weekly, said sophisticated weaponry would have been needed to take down a flight travelling at such an altitude.


366 posted on 07/17/2014 10:58:00 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: McGruff
Ummm... Who poisoned the Ukrainian President, Victor Yushchenko , back in 2004, with 2000 times the amount of dioxin deemed safe?

The Russians did.

If this was done to an American President we'd consider it an act of war.

367 posted on 07/17/2014 10:58:16 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Latest info seems to indicate plane was off flight path. Am sure more info to come in that regard.


368 posted on 07/17/2014 10:58:26 AM PDT by caww
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To: CMB_polarization
It has not been a good year for the late Malaysian Airlines. Its reincarnation is not likely to fare any better.

There is a genetic illness among certain cultures that adopt a very casual attitude towards things technical, mechanical, or safety related.
A primitive unavoidable worship of magic perhaps?

There are only two possible explanations for this event. A mistake by the launchers of the missile due to ignorance (a monkey with a hand grenade,) or a specific person or persons on that flight targeted for elimination.

The former is the more likely.

And, after the obvious "Oh S**T!" moment, of course, everyone involved will deny everything about anything related to the disaster!

369 posted on 07/17/2014 10:58:33 AM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: catfish1957
You make a good point. Even though you fail to read all my posts, and see that I said I despise the person, you slant my comment accordingly. "Grudg full respect is probably more indicative of what I meant. BTW...in the meanwhile why don't go you "F" yourself.

LOL. You are an a$$hole who does not like to get called on something he can't defend. Again, words have meanings. And I have no admiration or "Grudg full respect [sic]" for Putin. He is an enemy of free people everywhere.

370 posted on 07/17/2014 10:58:39 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

I remember that well. I was 12. The media loved showing the human remains and artifacts washed up on the shore, then cut away to Reagan. They’ve always been traitors.


371 posted on 07/17/2014 10:59:41 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Sacajaweau

This was after the neo-Soviets suckered the Ukraine out of billions and convinced them, in partnership with NATO, to give up their nuclear weapons. Russia would not be working so hard to destabilize the country if it were still nuclear capable.


372 posted on 07/17/2014 11:00:53 AM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: Neoliberalnot
Putin stands up for his country, our maggot stands for our enemies.

Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Hirohito, Ho Chi Minh and Kim Il-Sung all stood up for their country. Are you gonna make up excuses for these other scumbags? When is it gonna register in your mind that Putin was a KGB operative during the Cold War?

373 posted on 07/17/2014 11:01:33 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: publius911

....”after the obvious “Oh S**T!” moment, of course, everyone involved will deny everything about anything related to the disaster! “....

That’s exactly right!


374 posted on 07/17/2014 11:01:38 AM PDT by caww
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To: All

WASHINGTON — U.S. officials are investigating whether a Russian-made surface-to-air missile was used to take down a Malaysia Airlines jet near the Russian border, a U.S. defense official said.


375 posted on 07/17/2014 11:01:50 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: caww
None of the players want escalation in Ukraine to heighten more than it already has from this.

Even though two of the three sides (the separatists and Russia) want things to escalate?

376 posted on 07/17/2014 11:02:13 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: demshateGod

Ukraine live Tv showing numerous passports from the scene.


377 posted on 07/17/2014 11:02:55 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: kristinn
Shades of KAL-007.

"The target is destroyed."

378 posted on 07/17/2014 11:03:09 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: All

Ukraine Foreign Ministry: According to Ukrainian Armed Forces, #MH17 shot down by Russian Buk missile system at altitude of 10,000 meters.


379 posted on 07/17/2014 11:03:14 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: CMB_polarization

This is a gif to obozo. The news will forget covering the obongo sponsored invasion of the United States.


380 posted on 07/17/2014 11:03:26 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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