Posted on 07/16/2014 9:01:31 AM PDT by wagglebee
I disagree. Abortion is a tough sell, period. It’s an incredibly emotional decision, and then there is the internet. On the internet are the testimonials of 1000’s of people who have had abortions and regret it.
Gosnell is going to also put a huge dent in abortions. That movie, when it comes out, is going to be an internet hit. Nowadays, people look at women who get pregnant by accident and call them idiots - especially teenagers. They have no problem calling out a pregnant girl and saying, “You’ve heard of the pill, right? How about the morning after pill? Are you new?”
There are a lot more adopted kids around than there ever has been too.
In a cultural war between pro life and abortionists, numbers on each side do count in elections, you got to admit my argument does have some merit. If you ever watch the movie The Godfather, Don Corleone had to deal with the subject of drugs. He knew it was lucrative but it also can affect his Italian community. He was forced to relent, as long as his subordinates kept it out of the Italian neighborhoods. Like the strategic Don said, sell it to the others, let them lose their souls. Abortion is abhorrent, but if your enemies embrace it let them kill off their young while we raise ours. Never stop your enemies from doing stupid things.
Nice argument. /sarc
How about this one...
IMHO legal right to abortion has kept the Dem BLACK POPULATION ranks down, do the GOP really want them to keep and raise their kids to be future Dem BLACK voters if abortion is made illegal?
So abortion is fine as long as we keep it out of our neighborhoods.
Hoo boy.
Let's see, in the past 41 years, the Republicans and Democrats have each controlled the White House for about the same amount of time with a slight edge to the GOP and the Democrats have controlled Congress and the Senate for a considerably longer time than the GOP.
And during this time, 57 MILLION INNOCENT AMERICAN BABIES have been slaughtered.
So no, your "numbers matter" argument fails.
If you ever watch the movie The Godfather, Don Corleone had to deal with the subject of drugs. He knew it was lucrative but it also can affect his Italian community. He was forced to relent, as long as his subordinates kept it out of the Italian neighborhoods. Like the strategic Don said, sell it to the others, let them lose their souls.
You seem to overlook the fact that the Godfather was intrinsically evil to begin with (you might recall that in the same scene Blacks are dismissed as "animals").
Again, your we can do it because others have done it approach is immoral.
Abortion is abhorrent, but if your enemies embrace it let them kill off their young while we raise ours.
Abortion is either abhorrent to you or you embrace it -- there can be no middle ground! All you are doing here is parroting the "I'm personally opposed, but..." mantra espoused by the left.
Which is exactly what Big Murder has done, nearly all abortuaries are in inner city areas that are predominantly black.
Are you serious? Is this the hill you’re going to die on? If so, post your opus and begone.
A lot of it is fear.
After a few serial romances tank, many think “Why marry? It is cheaper to move out than hire a lawyer”.
There is no real concept of marriage, and hasn’t been for a while.
Only a moral relativist would admit your argument has merit. Among those of us who consider abortion murder your point is contemptuous. Get it?
It also is a pretty common assumption, with some merit.
But here is the problem. It assumes that ones political views are almost 100% genetic, and we need to limit the reproduction of people with the “wrong” views.
Freakonomics made the same argument. The whole of the Dem party platform is based on it.
Except people can and do change. My wife’s family were hard core Democrats (all Catholics in her area had to be). She has never voted for the Dems.
Before you go, would you answer one question? Did the original Fee die, and you inherited the computer, already logged in, and ready to post your own opinions? It’s something I always wonder when a long time FReeper says really stupid things.
Sometimes long time FReepers just get stupid. I am living proof.
Are peoples fate determined by their genetics?
I know more than a few children of hard core leftists that are more conservative than most, and the meme of conservative people going wild and abandoning the faith is based on a lot of truth.
LOL.
Kill the young of liberal democrat voters because they are statistically more likely to become democrat voters themselves?
That is your “pro-life” mind at work?
I think science is a key element.
We WILL have artificial wombs and even fetal transplants.
What happens when a father can sue for custody of the fetus so it can be incubated in an artificial womb? The feminists heads would explode.
I do recall a long time Freeper gave or sold his account to someone else.
668 The Neighbor of the Beast.
The new owner did OK for awhile, but he posted about what was done in acquiring that nic.
That was the end of that.
Since you want to talk political demographics, let us discuss. US population is 65 percent white, 14 percent black, 13 percent hispanic, 3 percent Asian, 3 percent Jewish, 3 percent others. Avg breakdown, amongst Jews and colors for Dem is 2/3 for Dems with hispanics, asians, Jews and 90 percent for Dem amongst blacks. 100 voters, these groups provide 29 Dem voters out of the 51 needed to win a close election. All you need is 22 out of 65 whites to vote Dem to carry the election. The only way white liberals can win is to reach out to minorities with the theme that whites are their enemies and people of color must unite. This has been a good strategy for liberal Dems. 50 percent of the abortions in the US is white and the other half is black/hispanic combination. The whites having abortions are not your conservative whites, but rather moderate/liberal whites. Abortion impacts the Dem demographic coalition more then the conservative coalition. What is riding in this cultural war is not abortion alone, but our economic system and personal liberties. The coalition that supports abortion also supports issues that is the opposite to what most prolife people believe in and trying to preserve. The US has become a divided nation, every election is becoming a hard knuckle affair. Despite control of education, pop culture and MSM, Dems cannot decisively control gov forever because they can barely hobble together a coalition. Abortion has played a behind the scene role (past behvior has come to haunt their present situation). Your post implies that abortion has a black racial dimension, I say yes based on political demographic facts, but not from what your post implies, that I am racially motivated to kill blacks with abortion. Racist no, but I am guilty of being a cold calculating strategic bastard. Wars are won with strategy and tactics, and not principles alone. In terms of winning the war to preserve our free economic system and personal liberties thru close elections, it may be a necessary and useful evil tool to let our enemies inflict on themselves and limit their growth in numbers. While we debate, liberals are on the move to break the demographic deadlock, it is call anmesty and open borders.
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