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Pentagon’s big budget F-35 fighter ‘can’t turn, can’t climb, can’t run’
Reuters ^ | July 14, 2014 | David Axe

Posted on 07/15/2014 12:38:36 PM PDT by Rodamala

Americans should be worried.

The U.S. military has grounded all its new F-35 Joint Strike Fighters following an incident on June 23, when one of the high-tech warplanes caught fire on the runway of a Florida air base. The no-fly order — which affects at least 50 F-35s at training and test bases in Florida, Arizona, California and Maryland — began on the evening of July 3 and continued through July 11.

To be fair, the Pentagon routinely grounds warplanes on a temporary basis following accidents and malfunctions to buy investigators time to identify problems and to give engineers time to fix them.

But there’s real reason to worry. The June incident might reflect serious design flaws that could render the F-35 unsuitable for combat.

All those F-35s sitting idle could be a preview of a future in which potentially thousands of the Pentagon’s warplanes can’t reliably fly.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aerospace; boondoggle; davidaxe; f135engine; f35; jointstrikefighter; pos; warisboring; wasteofmoney
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I did search for this on FR... didn't see it posted. Also, as far as I know, Reuters source is OK, but excepting and providing photo credit, just in case.

PHOTO: F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter is seen at the Naval Air Station (NAS) Patuxent River, Maryland, January 20, 2012. REUTERS/Yuri Gripas

1 posted on 07/15/2014 12:38:36 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Rodamala

So—The US taxpayer paid how much for this pile of scrap?


2 posted on 07/15/2014 12:40:08 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
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To: Rodamala

They should never have stopped making the F-22 and it is time for another major F-18 upgrade too


3 posted on 07/15/2014 12:40:31 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Arm_Bears

In total? I don’t want to know.


4 posted on 07/15/2014 12:40:53 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: EveningStar; Paleo Conservative
ping

For the Aviation and Aerospace Ping List

5 posted on 07/15/2014 12:42:18 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Rodamala
David Axe writes for the left-wing defense blog Medium (aka War is Boring). You can count on him to accentuate all the misleading half-truths available about any new and expensive weapon system. For a more complete picture of the teething problems associated with new planes, have a gander at this discussion. Re this discussion, the capabilities tacked on to the F-35 over its long development cycle are nothing short of revolutionary. The reason they keep on tacking these things on is because there's no reason (apart from cost) not to. If war breaks out with a peer or near-peer adversary, this is all we'll have in the hopper. Might as well get the best system we can gin up right up to the point of actual conflict.
6 posted on 07/15/2014 12:49:19 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Rodamala

I guess when you set out to design a “One Size Fits All” aircraft sometimes you get a “One Size Fits Nobody” result.


7 posted on 07/15/2014 12:50:00 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: Rodamala

The F-35 is not an air superiority fighter, it is a strike fighter that was designed to do the ground attack job the F-117 stealth fighter was responsible for but to still have air to air capabilities at parity with the F-16..

Think of the F-35 as an F-117 with much improved low observables, supersonic speed and the air to air capability of the F-16.

It is not an F-22, nor was it ever designed to do the job the F-22 does. It does, however, do many things the F-22 cannot.


8 posted on 07/15/2014 12:50:29 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Rodamala

Didn’t they find all this out on the engineering test flights - or did they even do any ...???


9 posted on 07/15/2014 12:50:48 PM PDT by SkyDancer (When the government is above the law, it's called fascism.)
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To: Arm_Bears
So—The US taxpayer paid how much for this pile of scrap?

Never mind the billions spent on this white elephant. Consider what could have been done instead. The opportunity costs are staggering.

10 posted on 07/15/2014 12:54:05 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Rodamala

A lot of nations (including Turkey, which automatically gives the technology to Iran) invested money and pre-bought these fighters. Italy built an aircraft carrier for them. If they’re not built it will be a black eye for America and a major problem for future procurements. Who will kick in the money next time if we can’t deliver this time? But given its weight and the plainly unbelievable things they say it will be able to do, I feel it will fall short as it may have been oversold, much like the Navy’s Littoral Combat Ship.

There are so many things wrong with military procurement I wouldn’t know where to start. But weapons systems are over-sold to gain the political muscle to get them built. So many new missions are added that you end up with something that is neither fish nor fowl and can’t do anything very well. Every mission in the world was added to the LCS, for example. Then there was the Army’s Future Combat Systems which was supposed to be one vehicle (or clusters of common parts) that could do everything from be an ambulance to a personnel carrier to a main battle tank. But it all had to fit on a plane and not weigh more than x tons. When you added together all the requirements they were mutually exclusive. And, to make them fit on the plane they made the sides vertical. That along with no armor meant they could not survive much of a hit. When I enquired I was told they’d solved that problem by assuming we would have total control of the battlefield and nothing would ever hit it.

Then there’s Congress, which only funds these things one year at a time so they are guaranteed lobbyist funds. What a mess.


11 posted on 07/15/2014 12:56:34 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Rodamala

I know an engineer who worked on it; he told me that there’s a gearbox in the lift fan that turns 15,000 horsepower through a 90° angle. It (the gearbox) has to be very small and light.


12 posted on 07/15/2014 12:57:37 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Rodamala

Short fat and ugly. The Rosie O’Donnell of warplanes.


13 posted on 07/15/2014 12:58:03 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Rodamala

A jack of all trades is master of none.


14 posted on 07/15/2014 12:58:13 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: GeronL
I really like how the reliability of the two-engined F-15 was referenced to directly in the article.

The F-15E is an awesome aircraft... then again so was the F-14.... so is(almost "was") the A-10...

The F-35 is a turd beyond compare... that will surely lose the war with China... but then... that is probably the intent by our military and civilian "leadership" all along.

Wait till they find out, post-invasion, that the ChiCom occupiers don't exactly embrace Faggotry. The will be wishing they had bought a few hundred F15SEs.


15 posted on 07/15/2014 12:59:46 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Rodamala
The F-35 is a piece of CR@P and it has been from the beginning. I truly believe this money pit was an act of sabotage on America from the get go, just like 0bama's presidency, the rigged courts, agency appointments and behavior (IRS, EPA, DOJ, DHS, FBI, etc), AND SO ON..

If China or Russia were smart THEY SHOULD TAKE US ON NOW BECAUSE UNDER KING OBAMADULLAH THEY'D PROBABLY KICK OUR A**.

Our military is already being down sized.. We're being set-up for ANOTHER invasion other than the one from CENTRAL AMERICA. THAT one is just a DRY RUN for the big one coming soon...

16 posted on 07/15/2014 1:01:12 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Rodamala
Israel seems to like them too, they posted this today:

A selfie... lol

17 posted on 07/15/2014 1:01:57 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Rodamala

We can’t do a damn thing right in this country anymore. In WW2, the P-51 Mustang fighter was designed and into production in less than a year.


18 posted on 07/15/2014 1:04:10 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Arm_Bears

You're not going yo believe this, but....

The Pentagon plans to acquire roughly 2,400 of the radar-evading F-35s in coming decades, at a cost of more than $400 billion

What is 400 billion divided by 2400?

It is 166,666,666.66...

19 posted on 07/15/2014 1:09:46 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: Rodamala
For heavens sake, the US gØvt can't build a fence, how in the world do you expect them to build a high tech fighter, let's just buy them from China like we do everything else that's higher tech than cast iron. < /sarcasm>

Speaking of fences, if they don't work why do we have one around the white house?

20 posted on 07/15/2014 1:10:07 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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