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The border crisis isn’t Obama’s Katrina – it’s worse
Hot Air ^ | July 13,2014 | NOAH ROTHMAN

Posted on 07/13/2014 1:32:16 PM PDT by Hojczyk

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To: Hojczyk

How about the real reason for “0blamo the Useless” not going to the border?... He knows the illegals are fraught with contagious diseases, scabies, and lice. Its OK with him to let that flow everywhere in America except he is not going anywhere near it !!!


21 posted on 07/13/2014 2:15:38 PM PDT by StraightDave (.)
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To: Uncle Chip

It is so easy to make tough statements on a internet board
but a state can’t countermand the fed.
you know it . I am as angry at anyone. I love in Texas.
I would love to get rid of them all
but facts and reality can’t be ignored
there is nothing a state governor can do to stop the feds from doing what that POS BO wants done
nothing
Do you think a gov can order a state guardsman to shoot an illegal or a fed agent?

would you really ask a member of a state gueard to shoot another America?
or an illegal?
If you would shoot either then there are civilian militias down on the border. Take your gun and join them. You’d have as much authority to shoot a federal agent as a member of a state guard


22 posted on 07/13/2014 2:25:28 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: USNBandit

I agree basically with your approach but apply it to all, not just illegal kids. The
real problem we have is that the US/TX southern border is basically the middle of
the Rio Grande river. Once they cross that line they are in the US, state of Texas.

The approach now is to apparently take them in, register them, give them papers to report
at a later date and then turn them loose within the USA. The approach needs to be
changed to where they aren’t turned loose but deported back to the orginal place of
origin. Give them immigration papers with instructions to fill them out, submit
and await their turn.

If we had a border barrier, coast to coast then the process of entering wouldn’t be
that easy for them. Build that barrier and if they can’t get across it then they
can’t easily walk up to someone and turn themselves in. There are a limited number
of legal border crossing locations. Force them to those locations and without
papers turn them around.


23 posted on 07/13/2014 2:26:16 PM PDT by deport
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To: StraightDave

It was not the hurricane…the levy system failed from poor design…Mississippi got killed by the hurricane…

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/natural-disasters/2315076


24 posted on 07/13/2014 2:27:35 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Every “expert” talks as if the American
people are, this time, going to wake up
and start to notice the damage the Left
is doing.

Kimye the electorate knows.

Border crisis, not so much.


25 posted on 07/13/2014 2:28:36 PM PDT by WKTimpco
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To: RWGinger

The Governor of Texas can file a lawsuit against the POTUS.

And he has even threatened to do so —

Has he done it yet???


26 posted on 07/13/2014 2:33:20 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Wait
first you want Perry to order the state guard to interfere with federal actions
and now you want Perry to file a lawsuit?

Really?
What would that accomplish as thousands are streaming in
AND being flown all around the country to every state.
Bo is making sure they are too spread out to be rounded up and sent back

I bet some have been flown to your state
what state are you in?


27 posted on 07/13/2014 2:37:58 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger

Rick Perry together with his Senators are in the best position to do something about this and you have the audacity to whine at me for demanding that he get some backbone and do something like the lawsuit that he said he was going to do.

What are you — his mommy???


28 posted on 07/13/2014 2:45:15 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Hojczyk

Government relief efforts, federal and state, after Katrina was the largest most successful relief effort in the history of the world. Why are most people so sorry about that?


29 posted on 07/13/2014 2:46:04 PM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

I should have said “were the largest,” not was.


30 posted on 07/13/2014 2:47:43 PM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: tsowellfan
this is a disaster created and encouraged by Obama

This is a disaster planned, created and implemented by Obama.

Katrina was a natural disaster, made even worse because thousands of criminals and morons refused to leave NOLA.

31 posted on 07/13/2014 2:52:22 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

Democrats and our attorney general once favored the forcible return of alien minors to their country of origin, but that was when the country was Castro’s Cuba and the horrible condition they fled was communism....

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/071114-708428-eric-holder-deported-alien-minor-elian-gonzalez.htm?ven=rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed:%20EditorialRss%20%28Editorial%20RSS%29


32 posted on 07/13/2014 2:54:38 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: StraightDave
How about the real reason for “0blamo the Useless” not going to the border?... He knows the illegals are fraught with contagious diseases, scabies, and lice... he is not going anywhere near it !!!

And with his compromised immune system, who can blame him?

33 posted on 07/13/2014 2:59:19 PM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: ladyjane

Why would you leave if you are criminal? Loot the hell out of it. Ummmm. OK

(then lets blame Jorge Bush on just how stupid we are)


34 posted on 07/13/2014 2:59:51 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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To: Uncle Chip

You make no sense
what good would a lawsuit do?

and in case you missed it the US Senate is Dem majority so anything my senators could bring up would never see the light of day.
The one good thing for Texas is these illegals are not staying in my state. BO is shipping them all over.

What about your state? What are you and your Gov doing about the illegals being sent there?
Have you called for your Gov to send the state guard to the airport and stop any planes from disgorging illegals?


35 posted on 07/13/2014 3:00:05 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger
what good would a lawsuit do?

Ask Rick Perry -- he said it.

All the legal minds that Perry is surrounded by and he can't figure out a way to challenge an Obama Executive Order that is causing havoc.

And in case you don't know the source of that havoc is south Texas --

He is still governor down there isn't he???

The sludge flowing into our state and all the others is coming from your state -- yours.

So deal with it and go whine at your governor not me or others who point that out to you.

36 posted on 07/13/2014 3:21:11 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: deport
You are correct. The media is fixating on the kids, biut the biggest problem is that the ratios of illegals have shifted to 75% other than Mexican. I personally don't think those numbers are representative of the ratio of total crossing, but that is the ratio of those apprehended.

There are basically 4 types,of illegals caught at the border.

The first is group is Mexicans without a modern track record of illegal crossings. Those people have their prints and data put into an electronic system that has been around for quite a while. They are usually offered "voluntary return" within a few hours of getting caught.

The second is criminal aliens regardless of nationality. They are taken to a detention facility and held until a decision is made on prosecution.

Other than Mexicans is where the problems begin. We aren't allowed to push them back across the bridge into Mexico and currently that means they get a notice to appear, which they won't ever show up for.

The last group is unaccompanied minors. Many of these kids are coming to join their parents who are here illegally. It is not the responsibility of the US to worry about what crimes have been committed against these kids during their journey. It is our responsibility to look after their basic needs until they can be sent back to their country. The faster we do this, the quicker the word get around.

Now the administration is trying to confuse the matter talking about "due process." If due process means an immigration hearing, then instead of spending money on HHS, housing, and flying people all over the country, we should spend money on immigration judges. When you have a process and there is a choke point slowing things down, apply resources to remove the constraint.

37 posted on 07/13/2014 3:37:50 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Uncle Chip

You do understand the border there is NOT just a state border?
right?
I think you can grasp basic facts. It is our national border

so when will your governor sue BO? or call put your state guard to go down to the national border and shoot a federal agent or illegal>
Will you be the first to volunteer?


38 posted on 07/13/2014 3:45:19 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Uncle Chip
"It’s Rick Perry’s Katrina as...."

It is my opinion that thanks to the MSM (including FNC), the meme for the crisis has now become humanitarian rather than illegality. The old routine of if a lie is repeated often enough, it becomes perceived as the truth. Any politician (conservative) who advocates a hard line approach on this issue will be made into a barbarian by the MSM. Just another Alinsky tactic by the left to keep control of the Senate and possibly retake the House.

39 posted on 07/13/2014 3:48:30 PM PDT by buckalfa (Long time caller --- first time listener.)
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To: Texas Eagle

BUSH DIDN’T CAUSE KATRINA!


40 posted on 07/13/2014 4:00:19 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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