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To: Cincinatus' Wife

In before beating up on George. He makes the argument in favor of the House authorizing a law suit against the executive branch instead of impeachment. A lot of members of Congress (most of their staffers) read George so its worth reading.


2 posted on 06/21/2014 6:18:48 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Mercat
In before beating up on George. He makes the argument in favor of the House authorizing a law suit against the executive branch instead of impeachment. A lot of members of Congress (most of their staffers) read George so its worth reading.

Yes. It's very informative.

5 posted on 06/21/2014 6:22:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Mercat

Congress is generally keen on finding ways to pass its duty and responsibility to others. Calling on the courts is a perennial favorite approach. And the president can just as well figure ways to duck around court orders, as he finds ways to duck around statutes.


6 posted on 06/21/2014 6:29:23 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Mercat; Cincinatus' Wife; butterdezillion; LucyT; maggief; null and void; hoosiermama; Liz; onyx; ..

Thanks for the info!

All y’all ping to this post !

Lawsuit sounds interesting..... takes fewer congresspeople than impeachment. May have the same results.


7 posted on 06/21/2014 6:30:08 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Mercat
"He makes the argument in favor of the House authorizing a law suit against the executive branch instead of impeachment."

Why should Americans believe Congress can get the Judicial branch to reign in a traitorous and terrorist executive regime, when Congress is to gutless to do what they should be doing?

And if it were to be successful, or at least partially successful in restraining the White House, what's to keep that tactic from being used by a DemonicRat-controlled Congress to attack a patriotic president?

11 posted on 06/21/2014 6:32:49 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Mercat

Frankly, the fact that you had to ‘get in before the beating....’ confirms what George Will has been all along.

I don’t need a bow-tied elitist who makes his living pumping out words and blathering pseudo-intelligently on Sunday TV now about a lawless President?

Where has George been? Where was he the first four years of Obama? Where was he up until now? Waiting until the last two years to jump on a bandwagon that so so many of us have pulled for YEARS!. All those years when George, and Charles and all of the rest of the token conservatives on Sunday TV sat there talking about Obama as Legitimate President, Obama as some sort of Well-meaning, but misguided CINC, and every other vein of conversation that just reeked of appeasement, equivocation and submission.

George is too late the ‘hero’. That was won last week when Cantor was banished by his constituents and a lowly academic with no political experience.

The fact is that Will, Kraut and all the rest don’t know jack. They know their rarified little political utopia of DC where even they have a role, even if it is the loyal-but-not-too-vocal opposition.

I don’t need to read what he has to say (although I did this one). He’s just now doing his cramming for the exam final, but that was last Tuesday.


13 posted on 06/21/2014 6:34:46 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Mercat

Will makes a case for trying a strategy if for no other reason than to say, “OK we gave it a shot”. I’m glad that he at least agrees that Øbozo needs to be reined in.

Equally illustrative are the comments at the link. The left does not care if Øbozo has gone full renegade. They don’t care how many laws he breaks or lives he destroys. They are cheering him on not because he is doing anything right or advancing anything they care about (he isn’t) but because he hates the right and he is using (abusing) his office to punish us.

Soapbox / ballot box / ammo box.

We’ve tried the first two....


15 posted on 06/21/2014 6:38:21 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Mercat
A lawsuit? What a joke.

The basic problem with that kind of legal action by a legislative body is that it automatically acknowledges that the legislature's clear authority would be subject to the whims of the judicial branch of government. Nothing can be further from the truth here in the U.S. A legislative body that files a lawsuit to deal with abuses of executive power is nothing more than a bunch of cowards and should cease to exist.

Every executive abuse that George Will can contemplate in this administration is carried out by executive branch appointees whose offices are subject to Federal funding that can only be authorized by Congress.

The problem the U.S. is facing right now isn't an abusive executive branch of government: it's a legislative branch that is perfectly comfortable with the arrangement.

28 posted on 06/21/2014 6:56:44 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: Mercat

I am not so sure a congressional lawsuit against the President is a valid approach. The court can refuse to hear such a lawsuit for the simple reason that impeachment and conviction in the Senate is the process specified in the Constitution.

In other words, the courts can express “What jurisdiction do we have over your complaint? Why involve us? You have the power and authority in Congress to dispense with this.”

It is understandable why some in Congress want to avoid impeachment but taking it to the Court would be shirking responsibility and burdening another government body that has no authority in such matters.


34 posted on 06/21/2014 7:06:25 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Mercat

Cut off the funding for the salaries of his Czars for starters and then cut the funding drastically for IRS and EPA.


73 posted on 06/21/2014 8:12:35 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Mercat
For the judiciary, it would be dereliction of the duty to protect the government’s constitutional structure. It would be perverse for courts to adhere to a doctrine of congressional standing so strict that it precludes judicial defense of the separation of powers.

George Will needs to understand: Obama is - metaphorically - a "black street gang member" dressed in an expensive suit.

Obama and his IRS, Homeland, and EPA fellow gang members show no respect for the law. Obama's actions against our systems of democracy are deliberate... and criminal. He's a disgrace.

88 posted on 06/21/2014 8:33:06 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hey IRS - those receipts you wanted? The dog ate 'em.)
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To: Mercat

George Will has been more GOPe than conservative in recent years but he’s right on the money with this piece.


89 posted on 06/21/2014 8:35:24 AM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: Mercat
A lot of members of Congress (most of their staffers) read George so its worth reading.

Of course you do realize that most 'Congressional Staffers' are very partisan Democrats? This is one of DC's great mysteries: i.e., why do Republicans employ so many Democrat 'staffers.'

Ask'em.

108 posted on 06/21/2014 10:08:47 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: Mercat
And given that impeachment is essentially a "trial," with the senate being the "jury," an impeachment would be a waste of time, and would be used by the ministry of propaganda against the tea party.

Mark

137 posted on 06/21/2014 11:25:13 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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