Posted on 06/03/2014 7:02:47 PM PDT by SMGFan
Figures. Larsen lost by only 9 points, pity no attention was given to that race.
LINCOLN
1834 - IL State House - WON
1836 - IL State House - WON
1838 - IL State House - WON
1840 - IL State House - WON
1846 - U.S. Congress (IL-7) - WON (served a single term and retired)
1858 - U.S. Senate (IL) - LOST (won the popular vote in a voter referendum, but Senators were appointed by the legislature and they narrowly chose Douglas)
1860 - President - WON
1864 - President - WON
REAGAN
1966 - Governor of California - WON
1970 - Governor of California - WON
1976 - President - LOST (but nearly deadlocked at the convention)
1980 - President - WON
1984 - President - WON
OBERWEIS
2002 - U.S. Senator (IL) - LOST
2004 - U.S. Senator (IL) - LOST
2005 - IL GOP Chairman - LOST
2006 - Governor (IL) - LOST
2005 - Kane Co. GOP Chairman - LOST
2008 - U.S. Congress (IL-14) Special Election - LOST
2008 - U.S. Congress (IL-14) Regular Election - LOST
2012 - IL State Senate (District 25) - WON
2014 - U.S. Senator (IL) - TBA
LONEGAN
1995 - Mayor of Bogota, NJ - WON
1997 - NJ State Senate (District 37) - LOST
1999 - Mayor of Bogota, NJ - WON
1998 - U.S. Congress (NJ-9) - LOST
2005 - NJ Governor - LOST
2009 - NJ Governor - LOST
2013 - U.S. Senator (NJ) - LOST
2014 - U.S. Congress (NJ-3) - LOST
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Oh well, I'm sure it all the fault of the evil liberal Republican establishment that the flawless Tea Party saviors lost half a dozen elections. We need to draft 'em in 2016. 7th time is the charm!
Ah that TIRED old argument again, when someone has nothing better to come up with they attack the person who DARES to disagree with them by pointing out he’s from a different state than the one he’s talking about, as if that means anything. I follow politics closely. I don’t need to live in NJ to absorb information about NJ candidates and use reason and logic to draw conclusions, Lonegan has been my on radar for years. His true colors are visible from MARS.
Why don’t you talk to JerseyHighlander, Clemenza, or TAdams8591. 3 NJ Republicans who haven’t drunk the Steveo kooliad.
I'm from Illinois and I also think Lonegan is a terrible egomaniac candidate and he's rubbed me the wrong way since I first heard him speak in 2005 (It also doesn't help that his supporters act like Max Cleland/Tammy Duckworth supporters and pull the "How DARE you attack a DISABLED person! Shame on you!" if you criticize anything in his past).
But since you consider our opinions invalid since we're not from New Jersey, you might want to consider what your fellow New Jersey freepers have to say about Lonegan. They know him best and their assessment is pretty damning:
In addition to being an 0-5 loser since ending his term as a mediocre Mayor of a sh-thole borough, Lonegan suffers from Michael Savage syndrome, aka a nails on chalkboard voice that mouths whatever the Koolaid drinkers want to hear.
10 posted on 6/3/2014, 10:22:25 PM by Clemenza (Lurking)
Lonegan and his brother are, at a personal levels, complete and total arseholes to deal with, and most of the major donors in NJ have at this point figured this out through their personal interactions with the Lonegan brothers.
He is a bottomless black hole where tea party/conservatives can throw their political donations, sucking political monies away from more viable candidates and causes elsewhere.
He’s basically running the Pat and Bey Buchanan 1990’s political donation/consulting racket on a local level, it’s an ugly machine and you don’t want to be associated with it.
6 posted on 6/3/2014, 8:58:43 AM by JerseyHighlander
1858, I think what happened was that GOP candidates won the popular vote for the IL legislature but the rats kept the majority of seats in both chambers. So if the “evil” 17th amendment was in effect already, Lincoln would have won.
Hey at least this guy I’m arguing with likes Lincoln, unlike all those neo-confederates who think he’s worse than Hitler.
Eh, it's New Jersey, there are a couple loonies up north who have drunk the "civil war wuz all 'bout STATES RIGHTS n' had nuthin' to do with slavery" kool-aid, but most conservatives are normal.
But the key point is that Lincoln became a nationally known celebrity overnight precisely because he lost the Senate race by a razor thin margin and WON the popular vote during the era when that didn't affect the outcome.
Had Lonegan or Oberweis been running back then, they would have ran some nasty attack ad accusing all the other abolitionist Republicans of being "part of the pro-slavery establishment", and they would have immediately sought office again after getting crushed in the primary (of course, it would be the fault of the "pro-slavery establishment" that they lost). Alternately, if they had no real competition and won the nomination, and they would have shot themselves in the foot debating Douglas, and the guy would have won re-election in a walk. (which of course would have also been the fault of the "pro-slavery Republican establishment")
I don’t think primaries existed yet. ;d
They are another “evil” reform like the wicked 17th amendment.
I have to say though in some States like Utah (where you can’t get on the ballot without going through the convo) and MN (where opposing the party convo’s nominee is taboo) using the party convention process seems to be mostly positive. It sure as hell wouldn’t work well in Illinois though.
Heh. The IL GOP leaders would go into the convention with an intent to nominate Neel Kashkari/Linc Chafee type liberal combiners for every office, and they'd face off against crazy Paulbots who are far outnumbered but know enough underhanded party convention rules to hijack the process and try to force Paulbot lunatics to be nominated for every office (like the LaRouchies who hijacked the Dem party primary in 1986). Normal conservatives would be on the sidelines with a deer-in-the-headlights look.
And on the RAT side, Mike Madigan's list of "recommended" candidates would be rubber stamped for nomination on the first ballot. Some black delegate would protest and be stripped of her credentials and arrested.
Monmouth poll of NJ-3
Tom MacArthur (R) 51%, Aimee Belgard (D) 41%.
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