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To: BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj

1858, I think what happened was that GOP candidates won the popular vote for the IL legislature but the rats kept the majority of seats in both chambers. So if the “evil” 17th amendment was in effect already, Lincoln would have won.

Hey at least this guy I’m arguing with likes Lincoln, unlike all those neo-confederates who think he’s worse than Hitler.


25 posted on 06/03/2014 9:42:50 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy
>> Hey at least this guy I’m arguing with likes Lincoln, unlike all those neo-confederates who think he’s worse than Hitler. <<

Eh, it's New Jersey, there are a couple loonies up north who have drunk the "civil war wuz all 'bout STATES RIGHTS n' had nuthin' to do with slavery" kool-aid, but most conservatives are normal.

But the key point is that Lincoln became a nationally known celebrity overnight precisely because he lost the Senate race by a razor thin margin and WON the popular vote during the era when that didn't affect the outcome.

Had Lonegan or Oberweis been running back then, they would have ran some nasty attack ad accusing all the other abolitionist Republicans of being "part of the pro-slavery establishment", and they would have immediately sought office again after getting crushed in the primary (of course, it would be the fault of the "pro-slavery establishment" that they lost). Alternately, if they had no real competition and won the nomination, and they would have shot themselves in the foot debating Douglas, and the guy would have won re-election in a walk. (which of course would have also been the fault of the "pro-slavery Republican establishment")

26 posted on 06/03/2014 9:51:48 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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